Yes, i did clearly state that if you need to reread its up there.I got the pictures on other zoo thread from few months back, check them out . They are fimbs though. So yes the Largest of the UROPLATUS and they have been their for years they say , so I consider that thriving. In same enclosure. Very nice Rainforest and zoo. If you ever like to make the trip its the Cleveland Rainforest and Zoo. Very nice place to spend the day. You can talk to the specialist and the breeders while you're there. I go several times a year.