Chameleon mouth slightly open

Kamila

Kamila

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Hi i dont usually post on here but with this im completely stumped and saddened. I've recently discovered that my boys mouth is slightly opened? I got him to open his mouth fully and there are no signs of an infection unless it could be a beginning of an infection? I've been searching for answers or how i can help him and theres nothing, my boy doesn't seem to be in pain because of it. He's around 2-3 months i tried to get a good picture of him however the quality is bad and he's obviously scared. I will be probably taking to him to a vet as soon as i can but if anyone has anything that could help i would appreciate that so much. 1601218340729329283707.jpg (he just finished his shed)
 
kinyonga said:
Can you take a photo of all of him from the side please?
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20200927_184355.jpg yes of course i tried my best, it's quite late now so he's heading off to bed which is why his colours are so bright, i forgot to include that he eats and drinks just fine from what i know.
 
I would take him to the vet... I can see exactly what Kinyonga was looking for with the MBD. the mouth looks like it could be that. Could also be an infection or mouth rot starting.

What kind of UVB lighting are you using?
 
Beman said:
I would take him to the vet... I can see exactly what Kinyonga was looking for with the MBD. the mouth looks like it could be that. Could also be an infection or mouth rot starting.

What kind of UVB lighting are you using?
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Booking an appointment for the little guy tomorrow! I'm not exactly sure what brand it is, it's this spiral lamp? I'm sure you've seen it, quite popular. The guy at the store recommended it, maybe he isn't getting enough uvb from it although he tends to sit next to it alot since I've got this branch right next to it (far enough for him not to climb onto it and burn himself) i don't know what it is and i cannot find anyone with this issue although it seems small I'm defo. going to help him as soon and as much as i possibly can. I'm only 12 but i love my lil guy so much, thank you for helping.
 
Kamila said:
Booking an appointment for the little guy tomorrow! I'm not exactly sure what brand it is, it's this spiral lamp? I'm sure you've seen it, quite popular. The guy at the store recommended it, maybe he isn't getting enough uvb from it although he tends to sit next to it alot since I've got this branch right next to it (far enough for him not to climb onto it and burn himself) i don't know what it is and i cannot find anyone with this issue although it seems small I'm defo. going to help him as soon and as much as i possibly can. I'm only 12 but i love my lil guy so much, thank you for helping.
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Yeah so those are known to cause MBD in chameleons because they only produce the UVB right below it a few inches. You need to buy a t5ho fixture with a 5.0 bulb and you want basking branch to be no closer then 8-9 inches below it. This one in a 24 inch or if your enclosure is wider then you need to get it to run the width.
This should be purchased asap.
https://www.pangeareptile.com/store/zoo-med-reptisun-t5-ho-terrarium-hood.html

Then start reading everything in this husbandry program https://chameleonacademy.com/chameleon-husbandry-program-getting-started-with-chameleons/

We have other young keepers here. I don't think age matters as long as you are open to learning and doing everything needed :)
 
Beman said:
Yeah so those are known to cause MBD in chameleons because they only produce the UVB right below it a few inches. You need to buy a t5ho fixture with a 5.0 bulb and you want basking branch to be no closer then 8-9 inches below it. This one in a 24 inch or if your enclosure is wider then you need to get it to run the width.
This should be purchased asap.
https://www.pangeareptile.com/store/zoo-med-reptisun-t5-ho-terrarium-hood.html

Then start reading everything in this husbandry program https://chameleonacademy.com/chameleon-husbandry-program-getting-started-with-chameleons/

We have other young keepers here. I don't think age matters as long as you are open to learning and doing everything needed :)
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Oh my, thank you for letting me know! I'll try to purchase as soon as i can. Don't worry i read all the care sheets before i got him ?
 
Kamila said:
Oh my, thank you for letting me know! I'll try to purchase as soon as i can. Don't worry i read all the care sheets before i got him ?
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That link is full of all correct info. If you were still using the compact UVB then I am sorry to say but you were not reading accurate info. I would still take some time and look through it.
 
Beman said:
That link is full of all correct info. If you were still using the compact UVB then I am sorry to say but you were not reading accurate info. I would still take some time and look through it.
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I'm sorry that was stupid of me but I did, the only reason i got that lamp was because the man at the store recommended it i thought i could trust him because he works in a pretty advanced reptile store and i never noticed anything off with his reptiles, I'll do better though. Ordered the lamp!
 
Kamila said:
I'm sorry that was stupid of me but I did, the only reason i got that lamp was because the man at the store recommended it i thought i could trust him because he works in a pretty advanced reptile store and i never noticed anything off with his reptiles, I'll do better though. Ordered the lamp!
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Do you want me to post the form for you to fill out for a complete husbandry review? This will allow us to help you correct any additional husbandry that you may have been told was correct but it is not.
 
Kamila said:
Sure:)
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Here ya go. Just copy paste it and fill it out with as much detail as possible.

Chameleon Info:

  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
  • Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
  • Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
  • Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
  • Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
  • Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:

  • Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
  • Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.

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Please Note:

  1. The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.
  2. Photos can be very helpful.
 
Beman said:
Here ya go. Just copy paste it and fill it out with as much detail as possible.

Chameleon Info:

  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
  • He's a male, veiled chameleon who is around 2-3 months old I'm not sure exactly he looked to be around 1 week old when i got him (very small)
  • Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
  • I take him out whenever he wants to come out and put him on his favourite plant, he'll climb onto my hand. Usually he wont especially during shedding but maybe once every 1-2weeks he'll come out by his choice and i let him sit on his plant (he always has such pretty, happy colous when he does ☺).
  • Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
  • Well since he's still a baby i give him about as much as he'll eat 2-3 times a day in the morning 8am and then sometimes during the day around 12pm and then 6pm, hos staple feeders are crickets and dubias as those are easiest to acess but i switch it up and feed him waxworms, fruit flies, silkworms occasionally I'll give him mealworms but very rarely, he wont eat any veggies or fruit i give him, i gutload the insects with lots of things mainly: mustard greens, carrots, dandelion leaves, papaya, sweet potato, kale, lettuce.
  • Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
  • I dust my insects with "repashy supercal nod"- and "flukers calcium" (with d3) - every 2 weeks and just a regular calcium with no d3/phosphurus about every feeding VERY lightly dusted.
  • Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? As of right now i haven't had a chance to get a misting system so i mist his enclosure/plants manually 3 times a day for 1-2 mins. And i have seen his drink before but usually he doesn't like it when i watch him eat or drink so rarely.
  • Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
  • No he hasn't he's going to go to his first vet checkup very soon, urate - white/creamy and then his poop - brown / a very dark brown, normal consistency? Not watery lol
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
  • Once he got out of his enclosure and was missing for a couple days we found him downstairs right next to the couch very scared, poor little guy. He was okay though still is slightly recovering.
I'm gonna answer the rest tomorrow since i have to go to bed and my parents are gonna get mad at me sorry, goodnight ?
Cage Info:

  • Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
  • Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.

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Please Note:

  1. The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.
  2. Photos can be very helpful.
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