Calumma brevicorne or calumma crypticum?

[Spookies]

Got this from a buddy. He said it was a Calumma brevicorne but the blue is making me think it's a Calumma crypticum what do you guys think?

 

[SteveH]

Identifying species between the two is difficult even for the experts. I have two brevicorne females identified by Dr. Chris Anderson and a male per the importer. Here's a link to all Madagascar chameleons that might give you some clues as to what you have. Here's one of my females just to show off

 

[SteveH]

www.madcham.de

 

[Spookies]

www.madcham.de

Yeah i was looking at that website too. And Dr. Chris Anderson said that it look like a C.crypticum to him too

 

[SteveH]

I would trust his word.

 

[SteveH]

Yeah i was looking at that website too. And Dr. Chris Anderson said that it look like a C.crypticum to him too

Do you also have T. Cristatus ?

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

The main obvious trait to look for that seperates Calumma crypticum from Calumma brevicorne is blue leggs. That is hence why Calumma crypticum is called the Blue Legged Elephant Eared Chameleon.

The pictures above are not that clear with regards to the color of the leggs. That specimen could very well be Calumma crypticum.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[Spookies]

Do you also have T. Cristatus ?

I do have a male

 

[Spookies]

The main obvious trait to look for that seperates Calumma crypticum from Calumma brevicorne is blue leggs. That is hence why Calumma crypticum is called the Blue Legged Elephant Eared Chameleon.

The pictures above are not that clear with regards to the color of the leggs. That specimen could very well be Calumma crypticum.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

The more I observed him, he does have tint of blue on his legs.

 

[SteveH]

Same here, awesome species !!!

 

[Spookies]

Same here, awesome species !!! View attachment 333367

It was literally my dream species beside the Kinyongia xenorhina. So when there was a cb avaliable I knew I have to just grab one.

 

[SteveH]

It was literally my dream species beside the Kinyongia xenorhina. So when there was a cb avaliable I knew I have to just grab one.

I've had mine 3 yrs. now from a import shipment

 

[Spookies]

I've had mine 3 yrs. now from a import shipment

I actually had mine for 2 years now I think. I do wish we get more Trioceros import tho. Still regret that I pass a cb T.quad 3 years ago.

 

[SteveH]

I actually had mine for 2 years now I think. I do wish we get more Trioceros import tho. Still regret that I pass a cb T.quad 3 years ago.

Yea, sadly it seems quads are on their way out as far as breeding/keeping in the US

 

[Spookies]

Yea, sadly it seems quads are on their way out as far as breeding/keeping in the US

that is very unfortunate

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

I actually had mine for 2 years now I think. I do wish we get more Trioceros import tho. Still regret that I pass a cb T.quad 3 years ago.

I think with a decade or two or more of accolplished conservation and restoration some Trioceros may become available again (other than Kenya). I think Tanzania is going to reopen with exports of some Trioceros and Kinyongia chameleon species. That country is just updating their approach to wildlife resources management and exports how to export them.

Possibly Cameroon if that country conserves and restores chameleon forests, controls collecting or manages reptile farming, and manages exports of the great Trioceros chameleons that live in that region.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[SteveH]

I think with a decade or two or more of accolplished conservation and restoration some Trioceros may become available again (other than Kenya). I think Tanzania is going to reopen with exports of some Trioceros and Kinyongia chameleon species. That country is just updating their approach to wildlife resources management and exports how to export them.

Possibly Cameroon if that country conserves and restores chameleon forests, controls collecting or manages reptile farming, and manages exports of the great Trioceros chameleons that live in that region.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

Yes, I've heard that about Tanzania ...
Fingers crossed

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

Yes, I've heard that about Tanzania ...
Fingers crossed

Tanzania has had rumors about opening up for a couple of years now.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich