4 mo. old cham not eating or drinking, has trouble climbing

ellie_grimes

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Hi guys!
I have a male veiled chameleon named Grimes who I have estimated to be 4 months old. He has not been eating for about 3 days and I have not seen him drink water. When he climbs his trees, vines, or my arm he is much shakier than normal and his tail swings back and forth as if trying to find support/balance. I'm really worried about this little guy and I want to make sure I'm giving him the proper care. Here is some information about him:

Grimes is about 4 months old; veiled species
I feed him small crickets, waxworms, and mealworms (about 10-15 a day of any kind)
He lives in a 10 gallon tank with small tropical plants, a fake vine, a light with a 50W halogen bulb, and a drip system. (I know that this isn't preferable for chams but I am saving up money to get him a better enclosure, and he is small enough that space isn't a problem yet.)
The temp of the enclosure is kept between 80-85 degrees F. The humidity is kept from 45%-60%. (I live in a very dry desert climate, so this is a good as it gets with humidity.)
I dust his food with vitamin supplement powder (Zoo Med's "Reptivite" reptile vitamins with D3).

His symptoms are: no eating/drinking (at least for a few days), shaky climbing, generally low levels of activity, occasional puffing/sneezing sounds, extra timidness.

As far as extra care, I have not yet taken him to a vet because I want to make sure a vet will help me before I spend that money. I have put him in a steamy shower several times as some cham owners suggest. I haven't ordered any medicine yet because I don't know what will help. Thanks for reading, any questions, suggestions or advice are welcome :)
 

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This may come a little harsh...

Your tank is completely wrong... Aquariums are not suited for chasm...
The tank needs to be much higher, as your cham is a tree climber ... It should be like 1meter high (36"?) ...
You need more ventilation from the front, or even better a screen cage... Chams need alot of ventilation and airflow (not draft!)
In an aquarium you'll also approach him from above alle the time like it's predators would which is stressful for the cham..

Add more plants like a big ficus where he can hide in.
You're gonna need to add UV lighting instead of D3 supplements.
You should stop feeding the D3 and vitamins daily but the D3 once or twice a month and vitamins once a week.
Add calcium without D3 daily. So 6days calcium 1 day vitamins. Once or twice a month calcium.with d3.

And really, if your cham is sick worry about it's health, not your wallet...
 
His front legs look curvy like he has MBD already. Not too late to get things on the right track though! He is still young! Get him a UVB light asap. If you read the link for the Veild caresheet and get what is needed he should do ok. His front limbs may still be a little curvy though. Please get him calcium and stop dusting with the mulitvitamin. Use that twice a month. As I said, all the info is in the caresheet.
 
Hi guys!
I have a male veiled chameleon named Grimes who I have estimated to be 4 months old. He has not been eating for about 3 days and I have not seen him drink water. When he climbs his trees, vines, or my arm he is much shakier than normal and his tail swings back and forth as if trying to find support/balance. I'm really worried about this little guy and I want to make sure I'm giving him the proper care. Here is some information about him:

Grimes is about 4 months old; veiled species
I feed him small crickets, waxworms, and mealworms (about 10-15 a day of any kind)
He lives in a 10 gallon tank with small tropical plants, a fake vine, a light with a 50W halogen bulb, and a drip system. (I know that this isn't preferable for chams but I am saving up money to get him a better enclosure, and he is small enough that space isn't a problem yet.)
The temp of the enclosure is kept between 80-85 degrees F. The humidity is kept from 45%-60%. (I live in a very dry desert climate, so this is a good as it gets with humidity.)
I dust his food with vitamin supplement powder (Zoo Med's "Reptivite" reptile vitamins with D3).

His symptoms are: no eating/drinking (at least for a few days), shaky climbing, generally low levels of activity, occasional puffing/sneezing sounds, extra timidness.

As far as extra care, I have not yet taken him to a vet because I want to make sure a vet will help me before I spend that money. I have put him in a steamy shower several times as some cham owners suggest. I haven't ordered any medicine yet because I don't know what will help. Thanks for reading, any questions, suggestions or advice are welcome :)

Sounds like your little guy has an URI and MBD you should ask your parents for a loan and get a trip to the vet right away.
There are a lot of things you need to fix with your set up right away like Remkon said already.
Your Cham will not survive much longer without a trip to the vet and fixing your set up ASAP.
 
UPDATE:

I got a 75W daytime UVB lightbulb for Grimes and he likes it a lot. He immediately moved to his vine to bask under the lamp and seems to be perking up quite a bit. Yesterday he drank some water, and today he ate a waxworm (first food in several days!) and drank more water. I noticed that his feces were just clear liquid, probably because he has not pooped in a while due to not eating.

His new 18"x18"x36" screen enclosure is being delivered from amazon, along with reptile calcium powder (without D3). Today I am going to my local nursery to get a nice ficus tree for him.

Thank you all for your input. I am so grateful to have this online resource!
 

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I'm very happy to hear you're following up on advise and that your cham seems to improve...
Keep a good eye on his feces. It should not be clear but white, much like a birds dropping... If it keeps being clear you may want to take him to the vet anyways... Maybe you can post a pic of the feces so people here can have a look at it.

I wish you and your cham the best and hope you get to enjoy a healthy cham! I'm shure he'll appreciate it's new enclosure alot!
 
Thats great! When is his vet visit?
Unfortunately I cannot find an exotic/reptile veterinarian in my city or even neighboring cities. I'm going to keep looking though!

[edit]: My local animal hospital supposedly treats reptiles, so I will look into that.
 
The poop thing is wrong not supposed to be runny. I would have him checked for parasites. The first symptom for Hera's parasites was shaking. That is 2 symptoms that your little guy has. Its worth it
 
Also getting your chameleon outside for natural sunlight can do a world of good for the MBD and just overall health in general. Are you sure your chameleon is a male? Check the back of the back heel for a little point the sticks out. The males have this and the females don't. Females can lay infertile eggs and if you do have one, a laying bin will need to be put in place from about 6 months on.
 
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Here's a pic of my Chameleon Doughnut. Doughnut is a girl she does not have spurs protruding from her rear mitts.
 
Also getting your chameleon outside for natural sunlight can do a world of good for the MBD and just overall health in general. Are you sure your chameleon is a male? Check the back of the back heel for a little point the sticks out. The males have this and the females don't. Females can lay infertile eggs and if you do have one, a laying bin will need to be put in place from about 6 months on.
He is a male, since he has the spurs on the back of his feet.
 
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