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Not trying to alarm you but.... ??? I was just looking at the pics you posted and I don't know what anyone else thinks but I just noticed that the limbs do not look very "straight"... possible MBD? I am esp seeing this in the 1st picture. Maybe some others can take a look again and give...

Such gorgeous coloration! He is a WOOOOAAAAAAA!!!!! :D

Lol! Keep in mind Carol is partial!!! lol! :D

I know you are!!! And you seem VERY excited tonight!!!! lol! The boys said thanks for the compliments Ace!!! :p

Mee too! I also like Nosy Faly although I don't think I will be getting one... I have been put on restriction! :eek:

Nice! They are great... I always tell people they remind me of "cartoon characters"! Congrats!:D

Thanks! Thanks Alex & Carol! It's hard to believe... I look at them everyday so it does not seem they get much bigger or change thier looks to much, but when I post pics and see the older ones I have taken boy have they changed! I can't wait until they are fully mature! :rolleyes: I ordered...

A few pictures of the boys "Wilson" & "Dexter" from this evening.... enjoy... they both said "Hi Aunt Carol"! ;) ATTACH]29269[/ATTACH]

lol! Hip hip horay for us shorties!!!! :p I have my lights on a timer & thats what I would have suggested to you. I am waiting for my large cages to arrive to make the switch and I too am hoping I will manage with my "shortness"..... lol!:p

lol... The third one looks like he is playing football!!!! :D

May seem like a silly question but.... Obviously you are new to Chams and from what you have said about the folks at the "Petstore" they do not know much about the either... so I was wondering what type of set up and care will you be providing? Many times "Petsotes" are not aware of how to...

Yes, they can... Yes, they can "rest" thier eyes... sleeping is a bad sign and Chams should not sleep during the day however they can "rest" thier eyes but they should immediatley open them if you go up to them or there is any type of disturbance and from what you said she does open them...

Yes! You definatley need to get foliage in there... this should help allot... and he likely does not feel secure without any type of cover.... :o

Expense... The initial expense and set up are the biggest ones, I would say depending you could easily be anywhere from $400-$1,200 depending on certain choices you make and making sure you have all you need from the jump start to ensure proper care. The maintanence is not too bad depending...

So am I understanding correctly? You are saying that you do not supplement? That could be a big part of whatever is going on... and although you did not see any initial signs of trouble during the first year due to lack of supplementation you may be seeing the begging of those affect.... I...

I'm on board.... with Carol & ferretinmyshoes.... also when there are already proven methods that work well why experiment not knowing what the outcome or harm could be to the Cham later on..... :p

Nice! I am sure he is loving it! You did a wonderful job! :p

Good luck to you if you go!!!! No wonder people way away thinking they are doing everything right, only to end up with a sick Cham that will end up costing way more than the 50% off deal! :(

My guy.... My one guy will head bob when he sees my other guy.... so I guess it is either territorial or he is gender confused!? :D Seems to be more of a territorial display though because he will only do it if they are free ranging and end up on the same tree.

Hope things turn around... Sleeping during the day is never a good sign, any other behavioral changes? I know everyone will want to try to help to see what "may be going on" but in order to do that can you please fill out the "ask for help form"...