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you have to be very careful with youngins as well as adults. usually as chameleons grow older they develop the sense to turn nose tip to the ground so that there "nostrils" are facing down and cannot be over run with water. Although this is a basic survival instinct, in captivity it is not...

i've never tried it, nor do i know anything about it, but it sounds like a potential to do more harm

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yes indeed

i would guess that testosterone and estrongen come to play in the wild for many years that have heavily favored the most masculine chams. i have yet to encounter males with unsually low testosterone, usually a nice territory sunshine and feeders are all a cham needs to fit the bill of a male...

the robin egg blue dots all over is a very telling indication, you'll never see a male with that many , males tend to have far less, and they tend to be concentrated within the stripes and certainly not that large

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excellent point

are you trying to say cuervo looks like a female? cuz i agree, i'm sure you know the sex of your veiled and maybe it is a male, but i had an identical female a few months back so its throwing me off

i'm such a jerk but there is no way in hell he is 3 months. I am very skilled at the art of chameleon age guessing, i should work at a carnival, he is beautiful but he is 4 months old quit playing :)

pearl Swipey - female sibling to dex the others -

female veiled Ophelia - aka fireshot aka mj

this cham is neville, dexters bro this is skillz he is showing as much coloration yet but his casque to body ratio is rediculous, his casque is going to be huge, he is unrelated to the others

big props to FLCHAMS and MISTKING for allowing me to fulfill my dream cham jungle the chameleon pictured on this post is Dexter a 4.5 month old f1 from a wc yemen i also have a bunch of his siblings i may be offering for sale.

has anyone done any tide research on the chanels between the islands and the mainlands of madagascar? i imagine they couldn't be more than 25-50 miles away and with tides coming back inland, that makes an endurance swim more of a float. and chams are one of the most bouyant lizards and good...

people don't realize how much goes into raising them to that size

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he is really nice. I have several nice maturing veileds atm let me know if you would be interested in a cash + cham trade i have several unrelated pairs

from what i've heard, hops are not good for chameleons, at all, but i have heard of beer being used in plants and lawns and i don't know what it is other than the broken down organic matter and gases that would be beneficial