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at the moment what size does it come in? just thinking might be handy Summer months so I can get my cham outside for a bit if we ever manage to see the sun, is it patented yet?

mel, when you end up buying the home next door just to house the chameleons then you have too many :)

every time I tried to take a picture before this I ended up getting a shot of her ***, was almost like she was trying to say "kiss it"

second what Brad said, looks good from what I can see in that picture

just played that at the office, ahh got to love being paid to read the forums whilst being on call lol still think the KDE version will be better

wow some Nice colouration on him :)

After numerous failed attempts I finally managed to get a photo as Karmen finished her shed

The waterfall whilst it looks good, if I were you i would send it back they can harbour quite a lot of Bacterium

I was lmao on Monday morning when I was trying to feed her, she was sitting on the Cup I use to dust the feeders holding the tub with her front legs as if to say hurry up slow poke i'm Huuuunnggggrrrrryyy. In the end I had to put a couple in undusted at the back of the viv to keep her busy...

about 3 months now, she's only let me handle her a few times, and that was only as I had mealworms

yeah have tried, but the hissing head butting of my hand, if I keep my hand still she ends up hanging off it (by that I mean from the mouth!!). Swear the little sod thinks she is a crocodile at times. She does let me hand feed her locusts so long as I show them about her body length away, any...

I was going to start a free range, but the setting up of one was going to be ridiculously expensive and Karmen is purely a hands off chameleon

Wow, he is looking a million times better, this was one thread i've been unable to read after seeing the tongue on the first page :(

Recently whenever i've tried to take Photographs the lighting in the Viv messes them up big time like this one :(

The middle and penultimate photograph from those looks great

Sorry, I missed out "adult" in my previous posting, yeah Exo terras are Expensive, think the last time I was looking at getting one they were going for £314.99 (us$508.61)

i'd think it might be ok, for a destroy it yourself viv, last time I wnet into Ikea I was loking at a few of the Cabinets with a view of making them into a vivarium :)

you need at least a 2ftx2ftx4ft viv for a male Veiled, the Exo terra's unfortunatley don't go that big.

Nice vid, loved the Panther not wanting to be filmed:)