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No worries. Chams are still a newish field for me. Though I've kept them in the past most people here have had much more experience with them so I'm learning new things everyday especially when crazy person names andee decides to drop a bunch of knowledge on everyone. I like to debate and argue...

Btw these are splendid leaf frogs

One of more unique species of frogs that I keep. (Frogs are my true passion)

Yes it is.

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Can you see him in the second pic?

Though I generally don't like boring snakes bloods have a soft spot in my heart just a very beautiful species. I generally don't like man made mutations in animals, some I just can't resist.

After seperating them I decided to go with a more naturalistic enclosure.

These have gotta be one of the most curious snakes I've ever had. These guys are like graders but much larger. Great for someone who doesn't want a boring snakes. Let's hope for babies.

Hi, my only argument pretty much was that 105 is not harmful. We seem to both agree that the bulb itself can be harmful but 105 is not a hard temp to achieve while keeping distance from the bulb.

oops my mistake you're right just a dumb moment I swear lol. Would still like to know if anyone has documented the temps they are seen basking at.

I don't see any risk at 105. UNLESS the Cham is able to touch the screen top of the enclosure with its back while its basking. Has anyone been to Madagascar and documented the temps that these guys have access to and actually bask at?

How much are you asking one a male? I would love to have one of your blood lines. Amazing looking veileds

I want one!

Actually I think I see three maybe 4

Hi, that is a great looking setup. I see you have two in there do they explore the whole setup?

Ah ok. I can't find the sp name. Have the been classified as a subspecies yet?

I don't believe 105 is high enough to burn Cham skin it's also not a bad thing so have access to such temps to allow them to choose it if they desire. So long as you also have acces to lower basking temps and the ambient temp isn't too high.The Cham will choose on its own.

I agree building screen cages is super cheap I'm just super lazy.(though it's not hard at all. Several options you can use for the frame. You can get wood from homedepot for I believe $2 for 8ft sticks

@K_Wolf ty very much there are more I need to post just got lazy lol.