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I haven't seen a very large sample, but I mentioned that I have seen a difference in the distribution of blue scales (particularly that most females of gracilior have blue in the neck region and that, in general, I've seen more overall blue coloration in the T. q. quadricornis males than in T...

Here are some pics of T. q. gracilior: https://www.chameleonforums.com/lauries-t-q-gracilior-90320/. I think some gracilior are easy to distinguish from the nominate subspecies (possibly those individuals at the far ends of each side of the species spectrum if you will). For example, all...

That's a nice T. q. quadricornis. I'll try to post some pics of gracilior later today.

I remember Nick of First Choice Reptiles regularly had both for a time but that was some time ago. If I remember correctly, there were a few times where he ran out of the standard quads (the type I was looking for because of their higher dorsal crests compared to gracilior) but he still had the...

Kevin, Would you mind trying to get a total length on him? I'd like to compare him to his brother. Thanks

Were they the gracilior subspecies or the nominate form? Perry

Well, he has surpassed his brother! His brother now weighs 43 grams. Attached are a couple of photos taken today. I've seen this guy display to the female he's housed with on multiple occasions, but I haven't witnessed any breeding yet. Funny, but the first time I introduced him to the WC...

I couldn't afford that! :eek: But then again, adult quads seem few and far between at the moment. They haven't come into the U.S. for quite some time, but I'm not sure when any exports might have gone out to other countries. Also, I don't know what the yearly quota on quads might have been or...

Not a mistake Laurie. I have a photo of his brother (the adult male I have now) that was taken the same day (at 13 months old). At that age he weighed 24 grams (11 grams more than Kevin's quad was at that time). Perry

That's the gracilior subspecies (yellow head). Six horns (even more sometimes) are supposed to be more common in that subspecies than in the nominate form. Also, that is the more normal horn arrangement of a quad with 6 horns. Kevin's male (having 2 horns in the first row and 4 horns in the...

Hey Kevin, I just talked to Laurie and she told me about this post. Those horns are amazing! I've seen 6 horned T. q. quadricornis before (even though more than 4 horns is usually thought to be more associated with T. q. gracilior than T. q. quadricornis; I've even had a 5-horned male of the...

I've wondered whether turning the eggs is mainly bad just during a small or wide window of development. Many keepers have experience of their eggs being turned at the beginning without causing any problems. I also assume that the eggs might be fine if turned near the end of their incubation...

Unfortunately, no more interesting news here. She did lay more clutches, but they had normal incubation times (around 5 months). None of her female offspring have bred yet. You mentioned that in some species of reptiles, individuals lay eggs at low elevation and have live birth a high...

I know this is an old thread. However, it's New Year's Eve, my kids are watching "Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory", and I noticed the chameleon during the scene when the boat is speeding through the tunnel. It was mentioned here that the chameleon is a Jackson's chameleon, but can anyone...

non-receptive female melleri

There were 11 laid and all 11 have made it this far. Nine have hatched so two more to go. I'm sure they'll love licking the silkworm frosting off of the tiny little candles (I'll let you make those too). :) Perry

Hurray!! :D Congrats Laurie! That's awesome! On my end, 2 hatched here on Friday, 3 on Saturday, 3 on Sunday, and 1 more today with 2 more yet to hatch. We'll have to throw a combined birthday party for all these guys when they turn a year old. ;) You can be in charge of making the tiny hats. :)...

I'm still a little shocked because there really was no warning that anything was wrong. He looked great the day he was displaying to the female he was housed with, just two days prior. I'll always wonder what might have happened, but I don't expect I'll ever know why one day he looked fantastic...