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Longer horns is one characteristic that is typical of the gracilior subspecies (as compared to the nominate subspecies). I'm sure there is a gray area in between, where some quad quads have longer horns and some graciliors have shorter horns when compared to others of their subspecies, but in...

It seems like the graciliors, from what I've seen anyway, seem to vary more than the standard subspecies. I've always been torn as to whether or not to work with gracilior, but a major reason I haven't is that not as many keepers are working with them (less stock to trade, etc.). Following this...

Awesome Janet! Always exciting when the babies hatch. :)

I have 2.3 regular quads and a WC pair of adult Ambilobe panthers. Sometimes I also feel that I'm working with my 12 year old son's pair of Jackson's since I'm frequently feeding or catching food for them. To be fair though, he catches food for the quads and panthers all the time. :) The male...

The WC one-eyed gravid female from the December import laid while in Carl's care, but she was sent back to Cheryl after the WC male died? Is that right? You mention that she is gravid again and ready to lay soon at Cheryl's. Do you know if she is gravid from the male that died (or else another...

I am not aware of any studies that have shown that chameleons can even covert beta carotene at all into usable preformed vitamin A, let alone in sufficient quantities. I've read that it's likely that chameleons obtain their preformed A needs mostly through the consumption of various wild insects...

Maybe pregnancy induced edemas should be a subject for another thread, but I'll briefly comment. I've wondered about them too, but more specifically, I wonder why I really haven't experienced them with my gravid females while so many other keepers do. Since vitamin A is used by or...

Since D3 is often offered simultaneously with preformed A, as it is with either the LoD or the regular formula of Repashy's Calcium Plus, I've always wondered just how much of the preformed A is metabolized since D3 and preformed A are antagonistic towards each other. I once tried to figure...

Sorry to hear that you lost them Dayna. Temps might have been a (the ?) problem, but having had my share of bad experiences, along with a good dose of good experiences with baby quads and other species, I wonder about how much preformed vitamin A the mother received prior to and during the time...

Such a cool species. Back in the late 80's, I had the opportunity to keep a single male (a female wasn't available to me) that was in rough shape, but I was still impressed. It's really great to see you getting eggs from so many cool species. Hope you get a good hatch rate and strong neonates. I...

Congrats Sam! Amen to what Tylene said! Watch out for any vitamin fortified foods too and commercial feeders (crickets or others) that were raised on such foods. Back in the 90s, I had a group of neonates that was doing well until I added powdered milk to the mixture I was raising house fly...

The posturing of the female is what I find most interesting about the photo. From what I've experienced, I think overall size (e.g. length) is a better "guide" than weight alone as to when/if I consider a particular animal to be breeding sized. I'd like to know though how small (length-wise...

Awesome Ralph! Really glad your imported girl will be adding new genes to the captive population. Perry

How heavy were the nematodes and giardia? Big improvement over last time?

Sorry to hear TianLong is still not thriving Janet. Have you tried a cool mist humidifier with him by any chance? It might be worth a try because it's a more gentle way to help with possible, however slight, dehydration. Even if your misting times and duration are good, he still may benefit from...

Thanks Dave. I once had a clutch of quad eggs that started going bad around the 3 month mark. All the eggs, except one, proved to be infertile. When I opened them up, I saw no signs of an embryo or vascularization whatsoever. When the last egg went bad around 4 1/2 months, I expected the...

Don't beat yourself up too much Janet. :) A lot of keepers have had unfortunate accidents like that. I'm glad you were able to seen signs of vascularization when you candled them. Now that you re-positioned them with the embryo area on top, all you can do is wait and see. Let's hope for the...

On Monday, my WC Ambilobe female panther laid 26 eggs. I finally took the plunge and bought a WC pair early in March. They bred just once though, on March 12th. Right after mating, she took on the gravid coloration. She wouldn't breed again. Being new to panthers, that kind of surprised me...

Check out this link: https://www.chameleonforums.com/prolapse-any-help-would-great-134915/ I responded with post #15 of that thread with a brief summary of the three prolapses that I experienced with quads. Perry

He's looking good good Cheryl! Quite a few of the quads that came in the December and February shipments seem to be showing pretty blues, to a greater degree I think than what I've seen in past shipments. It makes me wonder about where they might have been collected and if the higher amount of...