we fight with Bill on our ends more or less coordinated was for it... calling it either the naturalistic approach to chameleon husbandry or defining it as naturalistic chameleonoculture
this seems to be disease based
either bacterial infection
or parasite infection which you can not detect with layman methods of analysis
or chronicle overhydration of the chameleon
tell me how you hydrate your chameleon
...and, if you need some natural poop from the wild, let me know... for decades, I did just analyses but in last decade, I started to document also chameleon droppings from the wild... :-)))
I wish you good luck in that, as proper popularisation and info through SM is extremely valuable if it comes to making the captive chameleons happy
I would love to see you going more naturalistic, as this is my passion, but I respect also other approaches in chameleon husbandry of course
Quite often, we see creations of cages which have nothing to do with the biotopes, chameleons inhabit in the wild.
It is IMHO and in my decades of practice the best idea to imitate the natural biotope as close as possible and meaningful...
1 and 2 F pardalis NW Madagascar
3 and 4 C arabicus...
I would strongly advise not to stick just with fecal urate samples from the captivity, as exclusively ALL shown examples are strongly divergent from anything you will see in the wild. Watery excrements is not what you see in the wild except for heavy rainy season. Instead, you see well formed...
as usual, this video is full of useful info explained a very simple language
and
as usual, there are many inaccuracies and mistakes such as
statement that little bit of orange in urates is OK - in fact upto 50% can be orange and it is within physiological norm, on contrary, totally white rate...
Jeremy, the fsct they were declaeed does by dar nit mean they were imported.
I will give you am example:
Despite thouďsands of Trioceros rudis were declared timcross auS birder, no single one did. All were at. Sternfeldi.
Same, many 29soeciˇens of the Kinyongia fischeri were really fischeri...
I was a le to see about 74specimens during merely two weeks time
Rhey are exrremely hard to find
We were three… i found all 74 :-))) rhey are hkwever easier ti find at night definiteky. Yiu just need to be wuick
They get dark immediately
This is what I guess the initiators hope for.
I am afraid, it is not the reality.
IN the world nowadays, when we fight CoVid in several vases and when we are not even able to stop humanitarian catastrophes in Ethiopia, Ukraine and Yemen, no-one will invest 1M USD into an insignificant project...
I tried to explain I am not negative...
The issue is, when hobbyists get on scientific field closer to general biology, they are, especially in herpetology of absolutely great help, however, when they get to such highly specialised field and bring there their enthusiasm but not enough...
The project will reveal nothing unfortunately. It is just a bubble.
The basic data set is too small in samples size and too rough that it does not build a real base for ID.
The authors did a quite lousy job, it was only like a students tested whether a method works. Well it works, but with...
I do not want to disappoint you but the whole discussion here is just a lack of research. A simple view into e.g. Tilbury's Atlas shows the debate here is pointless. There is no gentle human loving small casques subspecies. In fact, they are much bigger and equally nervous as the Yemen...