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Old 12-21-2006, 05:19 PM
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mixing panthers

can u mix different phases of panthers
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:44 PM
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You can mix different locales but from what I undestand its usually frowned upon.
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Old 12-21-2006, 06:07 PM
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as far as i know, panthers are like dart frogs, mixing is usually frowned upon, i have a 75%ambilobe/25%nosey be, and i will probably end up trying to breed him. I know chameleonsonly.com sells a handful of different crosses that they sell for cheaper than pure locales. i guess its just personal preference.
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i do not, understand y its frowned upon, really.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:16 PM
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as far as i know, panthers are like dart frogs, mixing is usually frowned upon, i have a 75%ambilobe/25%nosey be, and i will probably end up trying to breed him. I know chameleonsonly.com sells a handful of different crosses that they sell for cheaper than pure locales. i guess its just personal preference.
U've got dart frogs?
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:21 PM
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what about mixing a sunburst veiled with a normal veiled?
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:28 PM
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I personally would not recommend mixing of any kind unless you are an extremely experience breeder. People who mix breeds are experienced breeders. And quite frankly mixing the breeds does not keep the species pure to it's locale.
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Old 12-21-2006, 08:09 PM
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no i do not keep darts, but a buch of my friends do, to many fruit flies and what not. i think alot of people share scrappys opinion. and i do understnad that people want to keep the localespure, probably a good idea. but i agree with this to,http://chameleonsonly.com/panther_crosses.htm, like i said in my last post, some breeders are different and then i asked my friend noah at 2by2, adn he said he was trying to mix all kinds of crosses to see what would come out. once again, not saying that its 100%correct to nix the locales, but think of what some of the crosses could look like...
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Old 12-21-2006, 09:56 PM
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what about mixing a sunburst veiled with a normal veiled?
There are no legitimit differences in veileds in a manner that you are speaking of. There are two differing sub-species. These do in fact posses slightly different physical appearances and some what different color patterns. Only one is held in captivity the Chamaeleo Calyptratus Calyptratus as far as I know. These all live in Yemen. In this sub-species there are massive coloration differances. This is most likely controlled by the mother and the variation would be in the mitochondrial DNA, not the DNA held in the nucleus. This means it would change from cell to cell slightly and an entire clutch could look completely different from one another. The terms like sunburst are just marketing names. I think that these names came about to try to capitalize on the popularity of the panthers' famed differances. Now the panthers do have direct color differances in conjunction to what location that they came from naturally. If people frown upon the mixing of the differant types panthers it would simply be because it would not happen naturally. Other people simply do not care about the mixing of the differing panthers. They do tend to sell cheaper and produce dramatic coloration when they come of age just like the orginal.
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Some people think that breeding the different panther morphs together will either result in weaker offspring or sterile offspring. I don't know of any scientific studies that prove or disprove it.
http://www.answers.com/topic/panther-chameleon
"there is anecdotal evidence that interbreeding specimens from distant locales results in sterile offspring"
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