A true Dubia color morph

Raphael1047 · Nov 2, 2012

I have been noticing more and more of these "morphs" in my dubia roach bin. They look like a gold medal roach more then dubias, besides the black head. This dubia shown has not recently molted and in fact that is its true color.

Gold metal roach picture link: http://www.gregsexoticinverts.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=133786861

Hope to see more color morph pictures!

Texas Ranger · Nov 2, 2012

Raphael1047 said:
I have been noticing more and more of these "morphs" in my dubia roach bin. They look like a gold medal roach more then dubias, besides the black head. This dubia shown has not recently molted and in fact that is its true color.

Gold metal roach picture link: http://www.gregsexoticinverts.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=133786861

Hope to see more color morph pictures!

Looks like you have some Cuban brown burrowing roaches in with the dubias to me.

Dr O · Nov 2, 2012

Texas Ranger said:
Looks like you have some Cuban brown burrowing roaches in with the dubias to me.

must have come in on a boat. call the coast guard!!

Texas Ranger · Nov 2, 2012

Dr O said:
must have come in on a boat. call the coast guard!!

Lol..... Yeah as nymphs they look just a like and as adults the females look just the same but the males look different that species is just like dubia in every way but they are much fatter I just baught a lot of them to start a colony they gut load better and everything they bet dubia in my book.

Texas Ranger · Nov 2, 2012

Raphael1047 said:
I have been noticing more and more of these "morphs" in my dubia roach bin. They look like a gold medal roach more then dubias, besides the black head. This dubia shown has not recently molted and in fact that is its true color.

Gold metal roach picture link: http://www.gregsexoticinverts.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=133786861

Hope to see more color morph pictures!

If you can get me some better pics close up it may be 1 or 2 other species or a hybrid.

Dr O · Nov 2, 2012

looks like we’re still S*L in florida for cubans.

does anyone know any members who work a lot with green bananas? i’d like to start with them, but i’ve never wanted to have a climbing species. just looking for some advice.

drcrossfire · Nov 2, 2012

advice for you is keep your bin outside.. if they get out you'll be fine then

heat, mosture, food. Make sure to check the food for mold-- i just had some moldy carrots kill off a whole colony of regular greens.

Glad my giant greens survived!

oh.. and OP-- thats not a dubia

Raphael1047 · Nov 2, 2012

Texas Ranger said:
If you can get me some better pics close up it may be 1 or 2 other species or a hybrid.

I will get more picture when i get home, but i am 99% sure the are some-sort dubias. If not a pure dubia then a hybrid. The other males look normal (black). I don't know how hybrids work, but if they are a new species of hybrids could i name them? I will be so juiced if i could

GabeCastro · Nov 2, 2012

Dr O said:
looks like we’re still S*L in florida for cubans.

does anyone know any members who work a lot with green bananas? i’d like to start with them, but i’ve never wanted to have a climbing species. just looking for some advice.

This may help you out, a member helped me with my banana roach questions haha.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/banana-roaches-95802/

To the OP, i have a male dubia that looks exactly like the one you have. Not sure if it's a hybrid or not, it just molted so the wings are somewhat clear.

Texas Ranger · Nov 2, 2012

Raphael1047 said:
I will get more picture when i get home, but i am 99% sure the are some-sort dubias. If not a pure dubia then a hybrid. The other males look normal (black). I don't know how hybrids work, but if they are a new species of hybrids could i name them? I will be so juiced if i could

There are a lot of sub species related to dubia some can breed together some can't. But that one dosnt really look hybrid to me but just a different species.

Raphael1047 · Nov 2, 2012

GabeCastro said:
This may help you out, a member helped me with my banana roach questions haha.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/banana-roaches-95802/

To the OP, i have a male dubia that looks exactly like the one you have. Not sure if it's a hybrid or not, it just molted so the wings are somewhat clear.

That is very strange because the guy in the picture was in my breeding colony and i have not added to that bin in over 2 weeks!

and the roach in the picture was already in there!

pssh · Nov 3, 2012

Texas Ranger said:
There are a lot of sub species related to dubia some can breed together some can't. But that one dosnt really look hybrid to me but just a different species.

Which species are those? I didnt know there were any commonly kept species that could hybridize with dubia. I know discoids have a lot of pet/feeder species that they can breed with though!

Raphael1047 · Nov 3, 2012

pssh said:
Which species are those? I didnt know there were any commonly kept species that could hybridize with dubia. I know discoids have a lot of pet/feeder species that they can breed with though!

So you dont think these are a new hybrid, darn

I will get those pictures soon, but what angles would you guys like of the roach?

SarahcoadunatioZac · Nov 3, 2012

Are "Cuban brown burrowing roaches" really that much better then dubia?

d3s5 · Nov 3, 2012

Dr O said:
looks like we’re still S*L in florida for cubans.

does anyone know any members who work a lot with green bananas? i’d like to start with them, but i’ve never wanted to have a climbing species. just looking for some advice.

I've got a colony of green bananas and the only time they climbed the sides of the container were the first couple weeks I had them. Once they settled into their new home, no one climbed the sides - and I couldn't get one to fly if I tried! I love them. I would just make sure to give them lots of substrate and cork bark.

Deb

Texas Ranger · Nov 3, 2012

pssh said:
Which species are those? I didnt know there were any commonly kept species that could hybridize with dubia. I know discoids have a lot of pet/feeder species that they can breed with though!

I will have to look up the names of them but I think there are 3 commonly keap species that can cross breed with them

SarahcoadunatioZac said:
Are "Cuban brown burrowing roaches" really that much better then dubia?

IMO I think they are way better. They are softer and meaty.

Raphael1047 · Nov 3, 2012

Texas Ranger said:
If you can get me some better pics close up it may be 1 or 2 other species or a hybrid.

So what angles should i take the pictures? The top, the underside or side? Or all?

Texas Ranger · Nov 3, 2012

Raphael1047 said:
So what angles should i take the pictures? The top, the underside or side? Or all?

Close up top pics and under pics.

Raphael1047 · Nov 3, 2012

Texas Ranger said:
Close up top pics and under pics.

here are some pictures that i took.
comparison photo of regular, semi, and full color "morph" roach

top side of the "morph" roach (sorry for the flash)

under picture of the "morph" roach

under picture of regular roach (for comparison sake)

i hope this is good enough pictures for you to decide whether or not this is a color morph, a hybrid, or another species. if it is another species please justify your answer. my vote is still the same...it is a color morph.

Texas Ranger · Nov 3, 2012

Raphael1047 said:
here are some pictures that i took.
comparison photo of regular, semi, and full color "morph" roach

top side of the "morph" roach (sorry for the flash)

under picture of the "morph" roach

under picture of regular roach (for comparison sake)

i hope this is good enough pictures for you to decide whether or not this is a color morph, a hybrid, or another species. if it is another species please justify your answer. my vote is still the same...it is a color morph.

Looks like you have pure Byrsotria sp. Cuba brown burrowing roach ..... That's my opinion.

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