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Old 07-31-2008, 02:49 PM
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veiled cham eyes close!! help

Ok it all started last week. My I believe 4 months old male veiled has shut one of his eyes.. I thought something was in his eyes so I gave him a shower and rub his eyes a bit with q tip.

I house my male and female veiled in a 18x18x24. They are still young and I can house them together for now right??? Anyhow the female is healthy active eating etc. My male was active also. They are under 18"uvb reptile sun with basketing 85-90 degreee and room temperture is around 75. At night it can drop to 65-70.

I think the male might of been eating all of the crickets with multivit on it two weeks ago. Around 10-15 crickets...
He was a pig before he got sick? I seperate them thinking the female might of poked his eyes out?? but that wasn't the case.. Now both eyes are close... he just basking a bit and then he would go under the UVB light or in the dark to sleep?? The dark area is around 75-80 degree.. He will open his eyes if I take him out and distrub him. He still has a strong grip and walking. I haven't seen him eat or drink for 2 days? Do you guys think vitamin A will help him? where can i get it??? pet store???

Feeding... eat pinheads easily, 1/8 crickets and sometimes wax worms and fruitflies.. They are big now so I stopped feeding them fruitflies and pinheads.

I don't know what I did wrong just the fact that I put them together in the same cage. The female is doing great!! What could be the problem with the male??

Please help or advise.. Thanks!!
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Oh yeah I mist 2-3 times a day and just installed a mistking system but its not up yet.
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can anybody help?
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Old 07-31-2008, 05:31 PM
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At 4 months, that enclosure is already becoming too small to house one Veiled cham, let alone two. So no, you should certainly not keep them housed together anymore.
The fact that you separated them because you thought they might have been fighting should have answered that question for you already.

It's likely that one of them is stressing the other out (maybe the female is more dominant in the territory). Before you go into Vitamin A treatments and such, rather put them in separate enclosures and start providing them both with an adequate amount of the things they need: basking, UVB, hydration, food and supplementation (it is possible that due to competition in the current enclosure, they are not able to share these resources evenly - like you mentioned about the male possibly eating all the food).

Give them a few weeks to acclimatise to their new enclosures, and see if that doesn't sort out their problems.

You never mentioned how you are hydrating them: are they drinking properly?
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:46 PM
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My veiled, Zilla, is doing the same thing. I've had him for 5 days and his eyes have been closed ever since. I took him to the vet and he said Zilla is perfectly fine, maybe a little dehydrated. He eats maybe 8 crickets a day and seems fine. I'm guessing the same is wrong with yours. I noticed that when I left him alone for 2 days his condition improved. My guess is lots of warm mistings and isolation is the answer.
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
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When ever you get a new cham they always need to acclimate to their new surroundings. But a chams closed eyes are like us having a temperature. It is their way of telling you something is wrong. Double check your temps, humidity, and supplementation and if you find all of that is correct you need to consider taking them to a vet. I had 2 chams go into the vets today, both with eye isssues. The one i thought was no big deal the vet is very worried about. His eye has been closed and all sunken in. He is on anit-biotics and has to go back on Monday for a re-check and another injection. Don't wait on these things, it could mean their eyesight or worse.


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