Cage Info:
Cage Type - screen 24x24x36
Lighting - reptisun 5.0 linier ( 5.0 is new but i dont have any way of checking the uvb output) and 75 watt for heat
Temperature - 70 cool spots, 95 warm spots, 76 at night
Humidity - 60's with a spike to 90's after automatic mister goes off three times a day for 15 mins
Plants - live scheffelera abrocola with real sticks and vines
Location - living room

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - veild 4 to 5 months
Feeding - crickets and, waxies
Supplements - flukers calcium suppliment with d3 dusted twice a month on crickets
Watering - automatic mister three times daily for 15 min
Fecal Description - havent seen any in a day or so
Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? yes none
History - No health issues until now
Current Problem - MBD rear legs are not working and cham is shaking really bad when trying to walk back legs are straight out and it is as if he has no controll over his rear legs.

i dont have pics up yet but i know this is mbd. how do you administer the liquid calcium to the cham if he is not willing to open his mouth. also how do you cure this problem i am putting him in the sun for about an hour and i am trying to get him to eat but he dosent want to. what should i do.

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A trip to the vet is going to be neccessary. Jann

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you will need to dust a baby veileds food more then 2 times a month. Could be the problem here as everything else looks ok... Also wax worms should be fed in moderation as they are very fatty...

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How long have to had him?
What do you feed the crickets?

And most importantly, have you taken him to a vet yet? If not, I really think you should.

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Supplements are the problem you need more. CHeck out my thread called:supplement schedule?

These are MY personal Experiences with MBD (My cham broke all four of his legs and is still hear to tell ... er... hiss about it).

(1) Get him to a vet ... and get an xray done. See how bad the damage is. You'll be able to get an idea of how good or bad his bone density is. Additionally, if he's big enough you can get a blood sample to see what his calcium levels are doing in his blood.

(2) You'll want to get the high dose calcium supplement from the vet. I think it's called Glucagon (but I could be totally off) it's sticky and thick. To get hermie to open his mouth when he doesn't want to, I restrained him by putting his "conch" (top crown) between two fingers when he was sitting on my lap and then either using one hand to GENTLY pull open his mouth using their flap or use the syringe to GENTLY push down on the lower jaw ... this is difficult for MBD chams because their jaws can be weakened as well and you do NOT want a broken jaw.

(3) IMHO I got rid of anything he could climb on and if I could go back and realize he had MBD prior to breaking his legs I (we never saw any of the classic signs prior to his legs breaking) I would still do this. Herm broke his legs from being weak, climbing, falling, breaking one and then he kept trying and falling (this is what the vet says anyways we never saw it). I kept hermie in an aquarium (No lid bc there was nothing to climb with) with soft towels and even water filled exam gloves under them to make them comfortable) and rolled up pieces of paper and put them on the bottom for him to grasp onto. Is this stressful for a cham? YES, but it was the difference between life and death for hermie ... he never would have made it with casts in a real cham cage and if I could have done that to PREVENT him from breaking his legs I surely would have. I set it up with heat spots and everything. He didn't do well at catching his own food for a while but would happily eat baby foods if applied to his nose/lips.

(4) your vet may elect to get him on a drug that inhibits calcium uptake from the bones ... it's an injection and is for osteoporosis patients. BUT you canNOT start this right away ... bc his muscles (such as his heart) need calcium and if you start it right away it puts him at risk for a heart attack. I've been told to wait a week post giving him the high dose calcium supps to start but it may vary cham to cham.

Again these are just my experiences and what worked for me. <shrug>. Some of them are probably controversial but it worked and hermie is here living a happy life as a testiment to them.

Jam and Hermie (you can check out pictures of him under my album "Jam")

i have had him for right at 3 months maby a little more. he has always been good and healthy and eating and growing but this last week he has taken a downfall and it has really hit him hard the last few days. i am gut loading the crickets with flukers gut load carrots and collard greens with some apples. i know a vet trip is somthing i need to do but as i have said on here befor i cant because the closest vet is 21/2 to 3 hours away and all the local vets wont see my chams i have called and tried. so with that said thank yall for suggesting the vet but thats not an option i have. i know this is somthing that can be cured even without a vet, due to all of yalls knowledge on chams that is why i am asking.

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good news, i have found somewhat of a herp vet. and i am taking zuse in today. i think this is going to be a long road to recovery but i hope he is a fighter.

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When you don't have an expert herp vet in the area sometimes you can do with a vet who is willing to and interested in helping. When Hermie has been sick our local emergency vet did not see herps ... but the emergency vet 2.5 hours away did. (a lot of vets in our area aren't open after hours/weekends ... most towns have an emergency center). It was winter (in MIchigan) and I was afraid of driving hermie 2.5-3 hours with it being cold out when he was sick so if he needed things like fluids I could take him to the local one, they would call the farther away one and talk about him and sometimes the herp emergency vet would fax them diagrams of things that they needed to do or give them directions over the phone.

Jam

well thats the thing, hes just a reg. vet but he has seen some reptiles, and he did say he is familure with MBD so this may be a good thing.

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