Human humidifier for chameleon enclosure?

I am wondering if anyone has ever used a human warm mist humdifier for a chameleon enclosure? Keeping it outside the enclosure and just aiming it into the cage.
My cage is all screen and rather large so I'm finding even with a waterfall, a fogger and misting I can't keep the humidity above 50%. My vet suggested putting Saran Wrap around 2 sides of the cage to help hold moisture in. Suggestions?

babybug134 said:

I am wondering if anyone has ever used a human warm mist humdifier for a chameleon enclosure? Keeping it outside the enclosure and just aiming it into the cage.
My cage is all screen and rather large so I'm finding even with a waterfall, a fogger and misting I can't keep the humidity above 50%. My vet suggested putting Saran Wrap around 2 sides of the cage to help hold moisture in. Suggestions?

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Please take out the waterfall. They harbour a LOT of bacteria. Unless you clean it every 30 minutes.

Get a big peice of PVC, put it over the humidifier and aim it to the cage. I seen a thread about this... i dunno where it is.

Thank you for your response. You know the bacteria issue had occurred to me but it just seems to help mimic her natural habitat so I thought I would give it a try. Do you think just keeping the fogger in would be ok?

babybug134 said:

Thank you for your response. You know the bacteria issue had occurred to me but it just seems to help mimic her natural habitat so I thought I would give it a try. Do you think just keeping the fogger in would be ok?

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I dont know about the fogger... But its probably OK. But remove the waterfall. The only good thing about them is they look cool. Or clean it every 30 minutes.

As long as the fogger doesnt make it too foggy... its probably okay. But I honestly dont know anything about them.

babybug134 said:

Thank you for your response. You know the bacteria issue had occurred to me but it just seems to help mimic her natural habitat so I thought I would give it a try. Do you think just keeping the fogger in would be ok?

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The waterfall does not mimic her natural habitat. There are very few recirculating waterfalls on the tops of trees.

Have you tried using any live plants yet?

What kind of chameleon do you have? If it's a veiled, you don't have to worry too much about humidity. As long as she is drinking enough water she should be fine. If you have a panther or jacksons, it's a different story.

Chequepoint - Thank you for your useless response as I am genuinely seeking information here as I'm sure many of us are. No need to respond to future posts of mine!

chequepoint said:

The waterfall does not mimic her natural habitat. There are very few recirculating waterfalls on the tops of trees.

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babybug134 said:

Chequepoint - Thank you for your useless response as I am genuinely seeking information here as I'm sure many of us are. No need to respond to future posts of mine!

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Its not useless. There really isnt waterfalls in trees.

I have foggers on both of my quads. They need the humidity and foggers are the way to go.

For info on fogger set ups PM Josh henley, He is the pro on foggers. Nice guy whi is way helpful. He has set up foggers from human humidifers.

I would take out the waterfall, it really isn't good for the chams. The sad part of that is I bought 3 of the damn things before I knew that!!

What type of cham do you have? I have quads, veileds & panthers and all 3 have different needs althought veileds & panthers are a lot alike. Hey i forgot to ask, where are you located? I am in Montana of all places.

Well welcome to the forum and good luck with your chams.

There seems to be a general misconception about what the natural habitat of these creatures is, so I helped point you in the right direction. They live in the tree tops. Far from the ground. Once you come to grips with that you realize how silly backgrounds, waterfalls, and substrate really are for these animals. If you want to replicate the forest floor so that you can buy all the little cheesy goodies at the pet store, get dart frogs or something. These are arboreal animals, and that idea can never ever be lost when designing a habitat for one. They're also delicate, so while if you want to put little bubble treasure chests in your fish tank to let the world know you have bad taste, thats fine and dandy.. stupid artificial waterfalls kill chameleons.

In general, though you haven't mentioned what species of chameleon you're trying to keep in this thread, you should less concerned about pegging your $3 petco humidity gauge at any one number and more concerned with providing natural cycles. Get a misting system, and plenty of live plants.
Figure out through experimentation how long you have to mist each time to have it saturate the habitat, while still allowing it to dry completely in between misting sessions.

babybug134 said:

Chequepoint - Thank you for your useless response as I am genuinely seeking information here as I'm sure many of us are. No need to respond to future posts of mine!

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I would use an ultrasonic humidifier over a warm mist. The main issue with humidifiers I have found is that hard water kills them. If you have RO water.... USE IT, or buy a new humidifier every 3 months

Or learn to replace the ceramic disks for $8.

babybug134 said:

I am wondering if anyone has ever used a human warm mist humdifier for a chameleon enclosure? Keeping it outside the enclosure and just aiming it into the cage. My cage is all screen and rather large so I'm finding even with a waterfall, a fogger and misting I can't keep the humidity above 50%. My vet suggested putting Saran Wrap around 2 sides of the cage to help hold moisture in. Suggestions?

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Yes, I have one in my chameleon room that I use for about a month each Winter (the only time when relative humidity where I live is low).
Live plants, a fish tank in the same room as the chameleon cage, NOT using an all screen cage (or converting three sides of a screen cage to something more solids, such as with plastic), a dripper, and misting are all good ways to increase humidity. A waterfall is generally not a good choice.

chequepoint said:

Or learn to replace the ceramic disks for $8.

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Actually it is not always the disks that go bad when using hard water, now sometimes it is but I am finding that the whole fogger can go bad because of the deposits building up and causing the fan to go out. If you use the Zoo med fogger and are using distilled water and something happens to where the fogger won't work, try emailing the customer service dept. We have found that they are very helpful and will do what they need to in order to resolve your issue. Since we run several of these foggers on our Quads and one on our baby Jacksons (very very low) we have found that if you don't use distilled water they don't last as long.

chequepoint said:

Or learn to replace the ceramic disks for $8.

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This has not worked for me. If you have RO.. again, use it but if not.... well... in my experience humidifiers don't last.... I mean sure I am sort of 'abusing' them by running it almost 24/7. I just live in a place with very hard water... so... now that I have RO... I might be able to get things to last longer.

summoner12 said:

This has not worked for me. If you have RO.. again, use it but if not.... well... in my experience humidifiers don't last.... I mean sure I am sort of 'abusing' them by running it almost 24/7. I just live in a place with very hard water... so... now that I have RO... I might be able to get things to last longer.

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Really really hard water is really hard on humidifiers.
I've have one for years (running 10 hours a day only a month or two a year) and have yet to have to change the disk it came with! The water where I live is soft.

I use a crane, cool-mist humidifier that comes in the shape of a penguin. I know that several other members on the site use it as well. On my blog you will find pictures and instructions https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/cushcameleon/134-diy-humidifier.html

I use a humidifier that I bought on sale at a hardware store for $15. I taped a hose to the vent and vacuum attachment at the other and it works perfect. The humidifier sits at the bottom of the cage and I fill it once a day. It looks awesome as it fogs down the middle of the cage from the top! You gotta be savvy

veiledchameleonyoshi said:

What kind of chameleon do you have? If it's a veiled, you don't have to worry too much about humidity. As long as she is drinking enough water she should be fine. If you have a panther or jacksons, it's a different story.

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I beg to differ with you about not having to worry about humidity. They require 70-80 % humidity to live. I thought I was doing everything perfectly Temps great, water dripping all the time, mister and fogger. I WILL TELL YOU I JUST SPENT 400.00 ON MY. chameleon yesterday at the vet for dehydration . His humidity levels were between 50-60