When we're watching we let him climb in all the trees in the garden. Are these all diseased now too? He never poops on them.

I guess I'll try to soak the 7 foot tree in ammonia solution. If it kills it well I guess it'll have to be replaced then.

I'm just angry that this poor guy was essentially murdered by a well known member here on the board. I bought him as a breeder and he ended up being a rescue. He came near death and was so loaded with parasites the vet couldn't believe it. He's been off/on meds for the entire three months we've had him and still can't get him 100% healthy. He's such a beautiful animal with a great personality. Its really a shame. Some people shouldn't be allowed to raise and sell Chams.

Ok, end of rant, sorry.

Sorry to hear that. It can be hard for breeders to keep cages clean inbetween sales and new clutches. But it is important.

I would encourage you not to call out the forum member, but make sure you've taken up the matter with them personally. Also remember that chams go downhill really fast, one minute they're sleeping during the day, a week later they're dead.

Not to downplay your experience though, I'm sorry it's been so rough.

I didn't call them out. I wouldn't even though they deserve it. This animal was treated like a commodity and nothing more.

Anyway, the issue is to find a way to get him back to health. I thank the members here for all their help.

we went through some coccidia stuff. it was real pain. its important to keep him away from any other chams or reptiles. we used a reptarium that we broke down everyday and cleaned with bleach and extremely hot water. the only cage furniture we had was a plastic branch she could walk on. we did this for about two weeks. there are also different strains that albon does not work against like the one we had. for a healthy immune system u may want to supplement her with nutri bac or parazap.

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This is all good information. I'm considering jailing him. He wasn't free range when I got him but he's taken to it so much that he gets stressed out when in a cage outside. Constantly clawing.

I supplement his food with 'Da Good Stuff' which is supposed to be as good or better than Nutri Bac although I'm going to buy Nutri Bac at the big show at the end of the month. I haven't heard of parazap.

What's your experience with both?

personally ive only used nutri bac. ive read quite a bit about them and they seem to do the same thing. i havent heard of one being better. if hes free range you need to clean everything he possibly could have walked on or there is a chance he can get it again after you get rid of it.

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My veiled chameleon (Blue Eyes) has coccidia also but instead of hitting her with some strong drugs/poison, I decided to try a natural remedy approach first. Has anyone tried Kocci Free from Wolf Creek Ranch.
After contacting them they suggested diluting it 1 drop Kocci with 2 drops water 4 times a day for ten full days. She seems to like the taste? and is even becoming my friend (stopped trying to bite me all the time). Not that has anything to do with it but we'll see if it works...
Visit their web site at www.wolfcreekranch.net/coccidia.htm

Blue Eyes. I agree with you. I don't want to ever give my Chams Albon. Dave Weldon has been experimenting with alternative and found Appertex promising. He's not done testing yet.

Please let us know if it works. 4x a day. Hope that's not too stressful on Chams. Glad yours seems to like it. Mine will accept once a day. After that he keeps his mouth shut.

mine reacts adversely with Albon treatment that he stopped eating for almost a month. I have to force feed him until he finally regains his appetite for hornworms.

Now, that's the only thing that he will eat.

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what are the simptoms of coccidia? please pm me. i have a sick cham and i and my vet can not figure out what is wrong.