I have 3 diy cages and about 8-9 LLL's and one repti breeze. I love the Diy's Except that the drain pans from LLL wont fit them. So you have to come up with your own drainage plans. If you go with the 48" tall DIY's the door goes all the way to the top of the cage. So you dont have that stupid brace bloocking your viewing of the animal. Thats my only complaint about the LLL cages. That and the LLL cages cheap door clasps. Diy's door clasps are much nicer looking and easier to use. Im going to try screencages.com next. I want some cages with the larger screen size for my big males.