Thanks for the link luis, it looks like you have had a bit of success with these? Could you give me your oppinion on this species? Harder, easier chameleons to care for, temperment etc... I read a post from back in 08', but I'm being a sponge right now so I want all the info I can get. I have a group of these coming some time in the next week and I am in the process of building a 4' widex4' deepx5' tall cage at the moment because I read that they need a lot of space. I'm really hoping they are a bigger chameleon, is this the case?