Suggestions to get my Usambara 3 horned to eat something else?
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canzoman
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Roaches! They even have green roaches that most chameleons love (p. Nivea? Maybe? I can't remember...) Flies, snail, butterflies, moths, butterworms, waxworms, sow bugs (Rollie pollies,) stick bugs if you can find them.
I bet they will like anything that flies
I will try flies or butterflies maybe.
My wife will shoot me if I bring in roaches I think.
canzoman
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No I tried putting them on a leaf in front of them.
They are very lazy and will rarely go looking for food. Even after 2 or 3 days. So I hand feed crickets. I will try that tonight.
Lizardlover
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Just buy some Panchlora Nivea and tell her they are green banana moths
.As stated previously snails, butterflies (non-noxious), moths, slugs, phasmids, etc. are all great for montanes. also try some BB flies.
when I owned Deremensis they went absolutely INSANE over isopods (sow bugs) I used to feed them standard Isopods, found this out one winter day when I had my female free ranging outside and she starting darting after something, she found an isopod crawling across the ground and went nutty over it, make sure you feed them captive ones though since wild ones have a high iron content or something like that, after I saw how much she loved them I started breeding them and they are fairly easy, you cant use them as a staple though more like a once a week thing. you can get isopods from doubleds.org, make sure you get standard isopods, they are the largest, they also have lots of other feeders your deremensis will love. (doubleds also has P.Nivea)
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Lizardlover
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canzoman
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Ah sweet thank you very much!
Lizardlover
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Your welcome! They are a bit pricey but they will pay for themselves in time, e-mail Dexter (doubled) and he will give you some tips on breeding them.
Kent67
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My male moves around a lot more than any I've had before, and maybe even more than any of his species (haha), but my female is very sedentary, too. Although, she'll come running for a super! Hopefully it works for you!
She used to be green here!:
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eisentrauti
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Three rules for deremensis:
- not much
- nothing fat
- high variety
- not much
- nothing fat
- high variety
canzoman
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Well tried the Supers going up the cage and both showed no interest at all. I have tried silkworms and nothing. So far just crickets.
I am going to look into getting the pill bugs or even the green roaches.
She has had very dark colors for almost a week and a half now. I believe its her gravid colors. Not sure if that decreases her appetite or not but I want to get her eating if she is gravid.
I am going to look into getting the pill bugs or even the green roaches.
She has had very dark colors for almost a week and a half now. I believe its her gravid colors. Not sure if that decreases her appetite or not but I want to get her eating if she is gravid.
Carlton
Chameleon Enthusiast
I once had a local hatch of some sort of green caterpillar in a row of ornamental trees near my office and offered them to my wc deremensis. Never saw him react so fast. I called the city to make sure they weren't spraying for anything and brought a bug container to work until they were gone (much to the amusement of my coworkers watching me during lunch). I'm certain the city loved getting rid of them for nothing. Not sure what they were, but they were the only feeder he would shift gears to get to. Possibly juvenile hornworms would work too. The adults are too big.
Lizardlover
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Dont be alarmed when you buy Green roaches (p.nivea) from Doublds and they arrive brown, most of the time he will send you nymphs, it only takes a week or so for them to mature though.
I would also recommend cabbage butterfly catterpillars and cabbage butterflies, they will eat a variety of greens and the catterpillars are green while the butterflies flutter and make chameleons go crazy. (carolina.com has in cabbage butterflies)
canzoman
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Thanks for the suggestions.
I will try them.
So far again today she really did not move from her spot once. She looks very healthy and fat. Eyes are wide open and feces look good. But just dark and not wanting to do anything.
Maybe I am just spoiled cause she used to eat like a pig.
I will try them.
So far again today she really did not move from her spot once. She looks very healthy and fat. Eyes are wide open and feces look good. But just dark and not wanting to do anything.
Maybe I am just spoiled cause she used to eat like a pig.
Carlton
Chameleon Enthusiast
One thing I did to rule out problems was weigh my male periodically. His weight was stable even though he hardly seemed to eat anything. Once I realized he was OK I relaxed too. It could be she's just mature with a slower metabolism and not really motivated to hunt much. An easy way to weigh a cham is to use a Pesola hang scale such as biologists use to weigh songbirds they catch in mist nets. They are simple (no batteries or electronic frustrations), inexpensive (about $30), and you can easily get her to grab a twig or piece of cloth, weigh cloth and cham together, then cloth alone to figure out the cham's actual weight. You can find Pesola scales at Forestry Suppliers catalog (www.forestry-suppliers.com), Ben Meadows catalog, possibly Carolina Biological Supply, etc.
canzoman
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Yeah I have been meaning to get a scale and weigh them. THanks!!
Texas Panther Man
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My ambanja panther was picky. But he went crazy for green katyddids. Try getting some mantis or katydids.
luevelvet
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I normally use crickets, dubias and super worms though the super worms are a rare treat. Occasionally I was use house flies, but I rarely hand feed. They are so accustomed to associating my hands with food that I couldn't open the enclosure door before she would be shooting at my hand through the screen. So in turn, I make them work for their food now. I throw the food as far away as possible so they actually go hunting for it. We actually have one small WC female that roams her vivarium just before dark to hunt under the branches and leaves. While ours do have periods of moving less, after ceasing the hand feeding, they've increased their activity a great deal.
Luis
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