Secret drinker???

Julirs

New Member
I just still have not seen my Veiled cham drink anything to speak of. I have had him over a week. Today he did zap a cricket that was underwater in my shallow drip collector dish, so he did get some water there. He has a drip system 2x daily and I mist 3x-just don't see him really drinking. He is eating fine and active. :confused:
 

Vampire.queen

New Member
Well, at first- you don´t have to give him so much water! It´s a YEMEN chameleon, that means he came from a dry land! Misting once or twice a days is enough!
And then- he probably drinks when you are not watching him (and that´s really easy with all that water u give him!). So mist him twice a day and u´ll see him drink...
 

Brad Ramsey

Retired Moderator
I disagree with limiting his water.
In Yemen the veileds primarily live in wadis which are basically rainforest environments. They are not desert creatures,Additionally, the thing we try to do when keeping them in captivity is create the best possible opportunity for them to have a great life.
I don't imagine wild veileds in Yemen live nearly as long as the ones kept under excellent husbandry in captivity.
My veiled's dripper goes all day long (10 to 12 hours) and a mist at least two times a day allowing the enclosure several hours of drying out time in between. I do not mist or drip at night and in the morning when I start the dripper again, the first thing he enjoys is a prolonged drinking session.
I'm sure your cham is drinking and I would encourage you to find a way of providing more water by increasing the size of your dripper or refilling it more often if possible.

-Brad
 

Dave Weldon

Avid Member
...and I mist 3x-just don't see him really drinking....
Howdy,

You didn't mention the length of time for each misting session.

A somewhat constant 20 minute misting session may produce a drinking response. Try one of those 1-2 quart hand pump-up units. Try using water around 90F-100F so that when misted, it won't be too cold. Work your way around him and then on him. He may like it right away or it may take minutes of misting for him to settle-down and drink if he wants to. It may also take days of this to get him used to it and drink. When I've worked with partially dehydrated chameleons, they usually will drink within the first 5-10 minutes. Some will then drink from a constant small stream of water until full.

The middle one in this photo is one of my favorites that used to be at Home Depot for $7:
http://rlflomaster.com/sprayers/hand.htm

This is why many of us us automated msit systems that run 2xday for 20 minutes. Whether they drink everytime or not, they have a better chance to kick-in their drinking response during a 20 minute mist/rain session.

 

jleahl

New Member
My house is soooo dry, I see my chams drink every time I mist them. I have those misters, Dave, but I feel like the droplets are too big for my brevs. I did use a Misty Mate, but it finally quit working...guess they're not designed for constant use! If I do a humidifier, will that keep the tanks a little more humid in between misting? Will it work as well as an automatic mister?
 

skeleptica

New Member
When you are misting them, they are absorbing the water right? is this somewhat a way of them taking a drink? When I am misting my veiled I do notice that she opens her mouth to drink, but this is the only time I ever see her drink... I mist her probably 2-3 times a day for a good 15 minutes with hot water, I do not have a dripping system, do you think this is providing her with enough water? She does not show any signs of dehydration. When I first got her, I set a fountain up in her cage, but I took it out as soon as I found out it wasn't safe, and then we spent a bunch of money on a Habba Mist mister, and it barely does anything... so we don't use that anymore, and I've looked for a dripper but I cant find one... is there maybe a way to rig one up myself? Sorry for the long post. Thanks.
 

Dave Weldon

Avid Member
...I have those misters, Dave, but I feel like the droplets are too big for my brevs. ...If I do a humidifier, will that keep the tanks a little more humid in between misting? Will it work as well as an automatic mister?
Howdy,

I will defer to the Brev specialists :rolleyes:.
 

Jordan

New Member
I think that through some of the holes in the widely recommend husbandry attempts (I use too) that this makes veileds a little more skidish when it comes to drinking. With time and age they will become acustom to whatever means you deliver water and as long as it is enough on a daily basis they will be okay. I would recommend at the bare minimum 20+ minutes a day.

I use this for misting my veileds. Cheap, reiliable and it does most of the work for you.
www.chameleonforums.com/misting-system-1995/
 

Heika

New Member
Howdy,

I will defer to the Brev specialists :rolleyes:.
I wouldn't call myself a brev specialist.. but I do use the same pump you are referring to, Dave. I even use it on newly hatched brev neonates. I am not sure if they are all adjustable, but mine's nozzle can be tightened down so that the mist is very, very fine. If it makes any difference, I bought mine at Fred Meyer's and it has a red top.

Heika
 

Dave Weldon

Avid Member
...I am not sure if they are all adjustable, but mine's nozzle can be tightened down so that the mist is very, very fine. If it makes any difference, I bought mine at Fred Meyer's and it has a red top...
Howdy Heika,

I'd love to see a link and/or a photo of that nozzle! I haven't seen an adjustable one before.
 

SliK JiM

New Member
Honestly, I've had my guy a year, I mist twice a day and leave my dripper running for a good 4 hours (after the first morning mist session) and I have only by my recollection seen him drink once, after I'd had him for 2 weeks! I don't think I've seen him drink since then! I know there's plenty of water going into his enclosure and he has fruit/veg growing in his enclosure (veg is mainly edible plants - everything I use is, and the fruit is mainly grapes but I add other fruits every now and then) so just because you don't see him drink, it doesn't mean that he isn't! As long as you provide a suitable level of hydration and means of getting hydrated he'll be fine.
 

Sancho

New Member
Honestly, I've had my guy a year, I mist twice a day and leave my dripper running for a good 4 hours (after the first morning mist session) and I have only by my recollection seen him drink once, after I'd had him for 2 weeks! I don't think I've seen him drink since then! I know there's plenty of water going into his enclosure and he has fruit/veg growing in his enclosure (veg is mainly edible plants - everything I use is, and the fruit is mainly grapes but I add other fruits every now and then) so just because you don't see him drink, it doesn't mean that he isn't! As long as you provide a suitable level of hydration and means of getting hydrated he'll be fine.
You bumped a 3+ Year old thread? :confused:
 

SliK JiM

New Member
wow! Didn't realise it was 3 years old! I saw it on something and thought it was a recent thing! :eek: Should really check the dates! Yeah, let this post die! :p
 
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