Raphael1047
Established Member
Hi, I was wondering if anyone could tell me what local my panther chams are I am petty sure they are both ambilobe, but I am not 100% sure. I would really appreciate it.
thank you.
thank you.
Panther Cham Local
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chameleonkev
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The female I don't no but the male looks like a difficult one to me, I can see ambilobe but and it might be just me but is it a cross? I think I see abit of mitsio in him with the green and red eyes, I'm probly wrong
oldskoolmodder
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I'm not sure how to tell females apart really, but I have seen quite a few pictures of locales. Seems to be a red barred Ambilobe male, not 100% sure but that's my 2 cents.
Benton1576
New Member
100% impossible to tell!!! I the male has some cross in him, it could be so tiny that you may not notice. As chamaleonkev pointed out, he does look to have a strong Ambilobe background, but I also see some Mitsio in there too. The female, well, she looks like any female from any locale. This is one of them cases that highlights how important it is to trust your breeders information, and if you have doubts, but from someone you can trust.
Alejandro17
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Ambilobe
Hi your male looks like it could have some sambava in him if it's the male in your avatar! So I say Ambilobe/Sambava.
Hi your male looks like it could have some sambava in him if it's the male in your avatar! So I say Ambilobe/Sambava.
Raphael1047
Established Member
Thanks for replying, the guy I bought him from said he was not sure what he was. Now I am sure he is ambilobe and maybe a cross of some kind.For the female I am all most certain she is a ambilobe.
Raphael1047
Established Member
Here are more pictures of him. Also I got him from craiglist not from a breeder, but he is in great condition.
Benton1576
New Member
He is a great looking guy and almost certainly Ambilobe, however, I do see Mitsio traits in him too, such as the white lips, Emerald green colouration, red eye turrets. If your planning on breeding, being "almost certain" doesnt cut it if you advertise them as Ambilobe. If you breed, do yourself and everyone a huge favour and tell them its possibly a cross just in case they decide to breed too. We dont want to end up having an Ambilobe debate like the great Faly debate!
Raphael1047
Established Member
I am planing on breeding him. I will make sure that i note in ads that he is possibly a cross. I did contact the guy I got him from. No reply yet, but i know he will.
chameleonkev
New Member
He is a great looking guy and almost certainly Ambilobe, however, I do see Mitsio traits in him too, such as the white lips, Emerald green colouration, red eye turrets. If your planning on breeding, being "almost certain" doesnt cut it if you advertise them as Ambilobe. If you breed, do yourself and everyone a huge favour and tell them its possibly a cross just in case they decide to breed too. We dont want to end up having an Ambilobe debate like the great Faly debate!
Glad you agree on the mitsio thing, it isn't just me who thinks it then and as for females I disagree with the people who say there are no differences between females, if you compare the female to a male of the same local and then other locals to you can see a slight difference in patterns and colour shades but with out a couple of females to compare to it is quite hard
Benton1576
New Member
Of course there are differences, the problem is as you have said mate, unless you have other females of the same locale to compare to, it can be extremely difficult, if not impossible to tell.
