New Gutload

[drcrossfire]

I have been using this as a "gutload blend"

Mustard Greens, Turnip Greens, Butternut Squash, Papaya, Apples, Carrots, Kale, Collards, Bee Pollen, Calcium, Kelp powder

It is in order of most to least-- what do you guys think?

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

That's an excellent blend imo! The link in my signature has info on more fruits and veggies so you can mix it up.

 

[carol5208]

Nice gutload except I don't think you need the calcium. You are dusting your feeders I assume and kale is high in vitamin A which is good. I said calcium before but I had to edit that.!!! It does contain calcium also along with some of the other greens you are feeding.

 

[sandrachameleon]

I have been using this as a "gutload blend"
Mustard Greens, Turnip Greens, Butternut Squash, Papaya, Apples, Carrots, Kale, Collards, Bee Pollen, Calcium, Kelp powder
It is in order of most to least-- what do you guys think?

Excellent choices.

Ditto to carol5208 about not necessarily adding calcium supplement to the gutload, as too much can actually kill off crickets (roaches are hardier).

 

[Ace]

damn awsome gutload,

i think yours is the simpliest list yet very affective most new owners should look at for a healthy and kickass gutload, and then add another a veggie/fuit to mix up a bit, but overall nice

and i might use your list now as a cool bloend of my own, thx

 

[luevelvet]

How are you preparing the blend?

Cheers?

Luis

 

[Kenidi]

I have no idea where to get some of those ingredients, but I was wondering if there were any pre-made gutloads that would work (such as repashy gutload or repashy super pig) by themselves, or with a few additional supplements.

If this is very looked down on, please keep in mind I am a total newb, and not yet a cham parent.

 

[CNorton]

How are you preparing the blend?

Cheers?

Luis

I wonder if you dehydrate some of the more "wet" items, can you blend them together and store them with less worry over spoiling?

I'm constantly trying to remove spoiled uneaten fruits and veggies while my dry gutload gets forgotten. Maybe I can dehydrate, blend, and store the gutload and add water to them upon feeding...

 

[drcrossfire]

I have no idea where to get some of those ingredients, but I was wondering if there were any pre-made gutloads that would work (such as repashy gutload or repashy super pig) by themselves, or with a few additional supplements.

If this is very looked down on, please keep in mind I am a total newb, and not yet a cham parent.

It's kind of a labor intensive mix, so I actually make it in big batches for me and a few of my friends and freeze it. We call it "bug booster"-- lol.

If you need some help I can spare a pack or two to get you started (it lasts a while). Send me a PM if you're interested

 

[drcrossfire]

Excellent choices.

Ditto to carol5208 about not necessarily adding calcium supplement to the gutload, as too much can actually kill off crickets (roaches are hardier).

PHEW...

Sandra-- I was worried you would find something wrong with it

 

[Ekaj13]

It's kind of a labor intensive mix, so I actually make it in big batches for me and a few of my friends and freeze it. We call it "bug booster"-- lol.

If you need some help I can spare a pack or two to get you started (it lasts a while). Send me a PM if you're interested

Freezing it will take away a lot of nutrition.

 

[drcrossfire]

I've done a lot of research and have seen no evidence to support this- has anyone found any good sources that supports this?

I do know it can leech b vitamins out of greens, but that is why I added bee pollen.

 

[sandrachameleon]

PHEW...
Sandra-- I was worried you would find something wrong with it

Oh well i wouldnt like to dissapoint - so, I suggest you consider adding small amounts of brewers yeast or sunflower seeds, for the added b vitamins

 

[sandrachameleon]

I have no idea where to get some of those ingredients, but I was wondering if there were any pre-made gutloads that would work (such as repashy gutload or repashy super pig) by themselves, or with a few additional supplements.

If this is very looked down on, please keep in mind I am a total newb, and not yet a cham parent.

My belief is that making your own is better, in that you can thereby control what nutrients you are offering. Most premade gutloads arent very good, or include preformed vitamin A and D which you may like to have finer control over. Fresh fruit and veg provide hydration, in addition to nutrition, and the nutrients in fresh foods tend to be somewhat more bioavailable that those from supplements.

more info on gutloading:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/75-feeder-nutrition-gutloading.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/425-may-2011-gutload.html

 

[drcrossfire]

Oh well i wouldnt like to dissapoint - so, I suggest you consider adding small amounts of brewers yeast or sunflower seeds, for the added b vitamins

Thanks Sandra! I think ill add some to the next batch. As the gutload guru, do you know any negative affects from freezing?

 

[Kenidi]

It's kind of a labor intensive mix, so I actually make it in big batches for me and a few of my friends and freeze it. We call it "bug booster"-- lol.

If you need some help I can spare a pack or two to get you started (it lasts a while). Send me a PM if you're interested

Thanks! I will send you a PM!

 

[wsidepinoy]

I wonder if you dehydrate some of the more "wet" items, can you blend them together and store them with less worry over spoiling?

I'm constantly trying to remove spoiled uneaten fruits and veggies while my dry gutload gets forgotten. Maybe I can dehydrate, blend, and store the gutload and add water to them upon feeding...

i actually started a thread about that lol i may be trying it in the coming weeks

 

[drcrossfire]

So I got a few people interested in some of my special recipe

I think Im going to make some more this weekend, so if anyone else is interested send me a PM and I'll just make some extra!

A kitchen can only get so messy

 

[Dabugman]

It's kind of a labor intensive mix, so I actually make it in big batches for me and a few of my friends and freeze it. We call it "bug booster"-- lol.

If you need some help I can spare a pack or two to get you started (it lasts a while). Send me a PM if you're interested

Can you describe what you do a little more? Do you grind it all up? How? What is the consistency when it defrosts?

 

[drcrossfire]

Can you describe what you do a little more? Do you grind it all up? How? What is the consistency when it defrosts?

I wash it all, run it through a blender, then freeze flat in bags. There is enough liquid that all I do is break off pieces and put it in the corners of my gutload container. When it defrosts it looks like a pile of mush, but doesnt get very runny:


It was a lot easier than chopping up new vegetables every day, and it has the variety I wanted.