the flap necks that i ordered the male was supposedly a male the female didn't make it so i suppose but the so called male is three times the size he was when he got here and i took him to the vet to check and who would of guessed he is about to lay eggs lol way to go lllreptiles!!! I find this very amusing and can't waite to see how many babies he/she is now going to lay!!! with that said if you live in the north west and want any if and when they hatch let me know. to peeps i'll give for free pet shop owners your gonna have to pay!!!