chameleoman
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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET AN EGG OR NYMPH OR ADULT OR ANY SIZE OF A extatosoma tiaratum?????????? I REALLY WANT ONE
and an egg
thnks
and an egg
thnks
Does any one know where i can get one
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chameleoman
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xanthoman
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extatosoma tiaratum/aka macleay's spectre stick bug
probably more appropriately posted in the wanted section or other pets and reptiles , but the mods can move it if they want to.
there are a lot of restrictions on phasmid importation and i am not a 100% sure they are legal to import into the us without a usda permit, but there was recently a guy on the uk phasmid forum that may have some.
http://www.insectstore.com/phasmid/showthread.php?t=3612
you would probably have better luck in the classifieds of the mantid forum
http://mantidforum.net/forums/
also, i have seen them on ebay before. there are several people with vids of them on you tube, so you might try pm'ing them to see if they have/know where to get some.
not a big stick bug person but, imo, macleay's spectre, one of the cooler stick bugs. mantids rock jmo
probably more appropriately posted in the wanted section or other pets and reptiles , but the mods can move it if they want to.
there are a lot of restrictions on phasmid importation and i am not a 100% sure they are legal to import into the us without a usda permit, but there was recently a guy on the uk phasmid forum that may have some.
http://www.insectstore.com/phasmid/showthread.php?t=3612
you would probably have better luck in the classifieds of the mantid forum
http://mantidforum.net/forums/
also, i have seen them on ebay before. there are several people with vids of them on you tube, so you might try pm'ing them to see if they have/know where to get some.
not a big stick bug person but, imo, macleay's spectre, one of the cooler stick bugs. mantids rock jmo
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chameleoman
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NO one else???
SSimsswiSS
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You did'nt see any at the Pomona show?
chameleoman
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saw twig and dead leaf mantis but not the ones i want
Maurer3D
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They are not legal to have in the US. I want one too
They are not listed on CITES or any USDA list I can find. If you know of one please post it.
If they are coming into the US from another country the shipper would need a license to ship animals into the US.
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They are listed as just Phasmids on the USDA list (how evil), basically you would need to apply for and get a permit to own them in the US "legally".
xanthoman
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i doubt you will get them in, but http://www.insectfarm.com.au/pets.htm carries them.
sometimes large commercial entities can accomplish what can be difficult for individuals. so it wouldnt hurt to email them and see if they have a way to ship to us?
to legally import any insect/ animal or live /dead parts thereof, would at least require a usdfw wildlife importers license form OMB No. 1018-0022 (which is easy to get for $100) also declaration form 3-177 for each parcel recieved, you should be able to download forms at http://www.fws.gov/
item would have to be received at a designated usdfw/aphis port of entry,
and would likely require a entry inspection by either/both a usdfw/aphis field agent/ possible quarantine/extra cost, they would also likely require a aphis permit which you are not likely to get, (traditionally they are issued primarily to entomologists, researchers, school entities and such, they are rarely approved for private casual importation of invertibrates).
for further/more specific info on animal/ insect importation contact;
Wayne Wehling
Entomologist
USDA APHIS PPQ
4700 River Rd, Unit 133
Riverdale, MD 20737
(301) 734-8757
[email protected]
insect forums are your most likely source of getting one, maybe you could get a foreign member to do a stealth undeclared /mailing of an ooth. technically not legal. but its a common practice in the insect community, and most get through, as only a small percentage of incoming packages actually get physically inspected. (not recomending, just saying, thats the way a lot of bug people do it)
a xantho rant;
this ultra complicated, and vague network of laws/requirements, regarding insect/ animal importation is rediculous. even the people in charge, cant be specific about the law.
supposedly in place to protect the public and agricultural entities from invasive species (or what they might be carrying). you can import a giant goliath bird eating spider, but you cant import a stick bug or orchid mantis?, whats the logic in that?, if they are worried about invasive species, i would think most people would rather be invaded by stick bugs or orchid mantis, before they would choose to be invaded by giant 8" spiders with fangs ?
lol, jmo
sometimes large commercial entities can accomplish what can be difficult for individuals. so it wouldnt hurt to email them and see if they have a way to ship to us?
to legally import any insect/ animal or live /dead parts thereof, would at least require a usdfw wildlife importers license form OMB No. 1018-0022 (which is easy to get for $100) also declaration form 3-177 for each parcel recieved, you should be able to download forms at http://www.fws.gov/
item would have to be received at a designated usdfw/aphis port of entry,
and would likely require a entry inspection by either/both a usdfw/aphis field agent/ possible quarantine/extra cost, they would also likely require a aphis permit which you are not likely to get, (traditionally they are issued primarily to entomologists, researchers, school entities and such, they are rarely approved for private casual importation of invertibrates).
for further/more specific info on animal/ insect importation contact;
Wayne Wehling
Entomologist
USDA APHIS PPQ
4700 River Rd, Unit 133
Riverdale, MD 20737
(301) 734-8757
[email protected]
insect forums are your most likely source of getting one, maybe you could get a foreign member to do a stealth undeclared /mailing of an ooth. technically not legal. but its a common practice in the insect community, and most get through, as only a small percentage of incoming packages actually get physically inspected. (not recomending, just saying, thats the way a lot of bug people do it)
a xantho rant;
this ultra complicated, and vague network of laws/requirements, regarding insect/ animal importation is rediculous. even the people in charge, cant be specific about the law.
supposedly in place to protect the public and agricultural entities from invasive species (or what they might be carrying). you can import a giant goliath bird eating spider, but you cant import a stick bug or orchid mantis?, whats the logic in that?, if they are worried about invasive species, i would think most people would rather be invaded by stick bugs or orchid mantis, before they would choose to be invaded by giant 8" spiders with fangs ?
lol, jmo
