Breeding- Prices?

[Zoey]

I was wondering what people on here charge for their babies.

As most know I was thinking about breeding my 2 Veileds and I was wondering what would be a good price to sell the babies for?

How old would the babies have to be before they could go to a new home?

Much thanks in advance.
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[Justin Carl]

Well, the going price on a standard veiled is 30$.
I wouldnt sell them untill they were atleast 2-3 months old.

 

[Zoey]

Thank you!

I've see Veiled on several sites (Babies) going for almost $70, I thought that was a bit steep

 

[Treetop Chameleons]

it all depends on age new Born's about 30$ each 3 months 50-60$ 6 months 100-200$ but it all depends on what you feel is a good price for your baby's.

 

[Zoey]

Wow those really go up with age don't they?

Thanks!

 

[Treetop Chameleons]

you have to think about how much time $$ and work you put into them every month plus they are not as fragile when they get older

 

[Vegas Chad]

who you get it from matters as well. Honestly I would rather buy a Veild from the kammers for $50 than one from you for $30. You can always wholesale them for 20-25 to LLL.

 

[Zoey]

Thats true. I kinda spaced the whole time and money thing.

Can you tell Males from Females right away?

 

[Zoey]

who you get it from matters as well. Honestly I would rather buy a Veild from the kammers for $50 than one from you for $30. You can always wholesale them for 20-25 to LLL.

That makes since. I was going to sell them locally.

 

[VeiledBreeder]

I dont sell mine for that much.
If they are older say 6 months-60$
At a young age of 3 months you can sell for 30$.
If you get a lisence you can lot price them and sell a whole clutch to a appropriate pet store.

 

[Vegas Chad]

Damn crudy work computer... hit button again

 

[Zoey]

I dont sell mine for that much.
If they are older say 6 months-60$
At a young age of 3 months you can sell for 30$.
If you get a lisence you can lot price them and sell a whole clutch to a appropriate pet store.

Thanks thats good to know. I wouldn't want to get a license unless we're sure we're gunna like the first breeding.

 

[Julirs]

Say you get a clutch of 40 eggs, and 35 hatch and lets just say 30 are alive after day 3. These little eating machines will eat you out of house and home! Do the math-hungry little baby chams consuming 10-20 tiny crickets per day. Crickets cost $28.50 for 3000.

30X20=600 crickets per day on the high end
30X10=300 on the low end
3000/600=5 days worth of crickets
60 days/5=12 boxes of crix X28.50=$342.00
Not counting housing, lighting, dusting, etc...

 

[Brad Ramsey]

You may have already read this:

https://www.chameleonforums.com/some-thoughts-breeding-2612/

Kitty's babies will cost ONE MILLION DOLLARS!*

*my pinky is at the corner of my mouth when I say that.

-Brad

 

[Justin Carl]

Dr. Evil Brad Ramsey Veiled Husbandry and Education Moderator

 

[nightcrawler]

You may have already read this:

https://www.chameleonforums.com/some-thoughts-breeding-2612/

-Brad

i was thinking about breeding mine but then i read this and i realised i do not have enoght money or time for it. sure it will be a great experience, but in no way am i going to make money. as much stress it would cause caring for these little guys will kill me.

...someday.

 

[Jeweledchameleons]

Think about this.... Ferrari or Subaru.

There's quite a few things to think about

Here's your question put another way.
How much should one buy and or sell a car for?
How about if you're a manufacturer...
How much should you sell your high end sports cars for?
Assuming that you has a top of the line design and engineering
or are you just a producer of oversized go carts?

You will always have someone that does not want to acknowledge
that a Bently IS different from a Hugo
and will insist that they be priced the same.
Even though they're both cars with 4 wheels..
everyone knows they're different .. right?


The truth is that "it depends"
Are you involved in breeding a superior animal line
or did you get a pair of bulk "dumped" animals
that don't have the genetics
that justify a desired pricing?
what it's based upon is what you can justify and support to the buyer.

A good gauge is to price the animals the same
as what you got them for
at the same age and level of development
and with the same expressed genetics from BOTH Parents.

IF you wish to sell a pricer animal,
invest in acquiring the best breeding stock you can
then sell those for the same price as the parents...
IF they also look as good as the said parents by carrying
the preferred genetics
(double recessives in some cases).
You may be able to justify it... if your husbandry is also up to the challenge.

Just because someone is dumping
their unsold animals online or in some advertisement CHEAP
Doesn't mean that those are the current prices.... They aren't.
Find out what they sold the top picks for .. not their runts and unsold leftovers.
Do that and see the range thats out there even for clutch mates.
Or if someone is just trying to get some cash to off ASAP
and dump what they have because they don't want the young eating $20/week in feed.

There's lots more to it than meets the eye and if you breed
you can't look at it all from a consumers perspective anymore
IF you want to breed that luxury is over with.
Not all chameleons are the same... not by a longshot.

 

[Zoey]

You may have already read this:

https://www.chameleonforums.com/some-thoughts-breeding-2612/

Kitty's babies will cost ONE MILLION DOLLARS!*

*my pinky is at the corner of my mouth when I say that.

-Brad

expensive I've read that one though. Thanks for the link back to it

 

[Zoey]

Say you get a clutch of 40 eggs, and 35 hatch and lets just say 30 are alive after day 3. These little eating machines will eat you out of house and home! Do the math-hungry little baby chams consuming 10-20 tiny crickets per day. Crickets cost $28.50 for 3000.

30X20=600 crickets per day on the high end
30X10=300 on the low end
3000/600=5 days worth of crickets
60 days/5=12 boxes of crix X28.50=$342.00
Not counting housing, lighting, dusting, etc...

I never thought of it that way before.

Thanks for the breakdown!

 

[Zoey]

There's quite a few things to think about

Here's your question put another way.
How much should one buy and or sell a car for?
How about if you're a manufacturer...
How much should you sell your high end sports cars for?
Assuming that you has a top of the line design and engineering
or are you just a producer of oversized go carts?

You will always have someone that does not want to acknowledge
that a Bently IS different from a Hugo
and will insist that they be priced the same.
Even though they're both cars with 4 wheels..
everyone knows they're different .. right?


The truth is that "it depends"
Are you involved in breeding a superior animal line
or did you get a pair of bulk "dumped" animals
that don't have the genetics
that justify a desired pricing?
what it's based upon is what you can justify and support to the buyer.

A good gauge is to price the animals the same
as what you got them for
at the same age and level of development
and with the same expressed genetics from BOTH Parents.

IF you wish to sell a pricer animal,
invest in acquiring the best breeding stock you can
then sell those for the same price as the parents...
IF they also look as good as the said parents by carrying
the preferred genetics
(double recessives in some cases).
You may be able to justify it... if your husbandry is also up to the challenge.

Just because someone is dumping
their unsold animals online or in some advertisement CHEAP
Doesn't mean that those are the current prices.... They aren't.
Find out what they sold the top picks for .. not their runts and unsold leftovers.
Do that and see the range thats out there even for clutch mates.
Or if someone is just trying to get some cash to off ASAP
and dump what they have because they don't want the young eating $20/week in feed.

There's lots more to it than meets the eye and if you breed
you can't look at it all from a consumers perspective anymore
IF you want to breed that luxury is over with.
Not all chameleons are the same... not by a longshot.

Thank you for that! Its another way to look at it.

My Female was bought from a Zamzows store when she was 1 month old, and the lady I bought her from sold her at 6 months of age.

I have no clue where as my male came from. I am assuming a pet store. I got him at 1.5 years of age.

If you ask me they are of no means going to be the very highly priced chameleons that you see now-a-days.

I thought it would be a nice experience to breed them and then offer them locally for sale for prices under $100 for people that have wanted a pet Chameleon but haven't had the spare cash for the initial purchase. I was also planning on sending babies home with a care sheet, and this web address so they could always be in-formed and up to date.