Blackmarket Sydney - dealing in deadly dogs

jojackson

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I thought Id share this story I read earlier. Your thoughts? :)

September 05, 2009

IT HAS all the hallmarks of a drug deal - an anonymous man you will never meet takes your order, another delivers the goods to a carpark, the exchange is fast and frantic to avoid detection.

But this is no drug deal, this is the complex underground system of becoming an owner of a banned American pit bull terrier, the new sought-after black market commodity.
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...g-in-deadly-dogs/story-e6freuy9-1225769649779

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For sale ... an American pit bull. Source: The Daily Telegraph
 
It's sad that people will raise pits to fight and from this given them a bad name, I had a pit growing up and he was the sweetest kindest dog ever! I think it all depends on the owners and how they are raised.

lots of adults/kids are attacked by smaller dogs all the time, but you don't see that on the news.
 
I think it all depends on the owners and how they are raised.

I agree, to a point. :)

lots of adults/kids are attacked by smaller dogs all the time, but you don't see that on the news.

This is true, but perhaps this is because smaller less powerful dogs dont often do this...

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http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm

Personally I couldnt care less if they were successfully banned in my state. People get them for the wrong reason so often, and so often they are bred for their characteristic strength and stature, they were hunting dogs instinctively.
 
I too think that it is how an animal is raised has a lot to do with it's behavior but i also think that you can never trust any dog/animal 100% no matter how long you have owed or raised it....also sadly about this story is....money makes the world go round:(:mad:
 
What is also cruel about these types of activities and I have no proof of this, but I have heard these people will steal / buy / pick up free dogs off of Craigslist and other dogs for these pits to practice on. I believe that was the case on the Michael Vick case. Evidence of non pit bull dog corpses.

Why people get their jollies off on others suffering I will never know. :mad:

There isn't a month that goes by in the Puget Sound area where a Pit Bull hasn't attacked/kill someone's pet or a person walking out their front door. The dogs do what they were meant to do. Taking that 'talent' and exploiting it isn't the dog's fault and unfortuneatly they get the ultimate punishment for it, however, I think the laws need to be more harsh against the owners. These people basically have a biological weapon.
 
Our city banned pitbulls back in the 80s. The "wrong" people now get different breeds and do the same things with them. One of the more popular ones of late is the American Bulldog. Nice dogs, but when bred or trained by someone who has no business doing so -- bad news. I've had some great ones come into my puppy classes and I often wonder what will become of them when they grow up
 
It really bothers me when people continue to tarnish the breed by saying how "deadly" they are. I was raised around 2 pit bulls and never have I seen any problems with them.

I'll make a few points that I think everyone should know.

I really believe that it is any owners fault for a dog attack. If your dog attacks another human it is probably because you didn't train them right or the person is doing something wrong around the dog that you should of prevented.

I think it's funny how some people report that their "family dog" attacked their child and how the dog has never shown any agression what so ever until then. But it turns out that their "family dog" has been tied up to a tree all its life and never let inside to actually socialise. Then the kid goes out there probably running around making the dog that has never been able to see kids normaly start freaking out because he has no idea why the kid is running and screaming then the kid runs to the dog. In most cases an unsocialized dog will bite. If you leave your dog outside all the time it is not your "family dog"

What is even more unnerving is that the majority of "pit bull" attacks are actually attacks by dogs that aren't pit bulls, but the breed has such a bad name that as soon as a dog attacks someone it is immediately thought of as a pit bull. On that website they all show the victims, but no pictures of the dogs. Any dog that looks like it is stocky is labeled as a pit bull now days.

Here's a link to look at http://dogattacksyouneverhearabout.blogspot.com/
Pit bulls are not the only dangerous breed

Another point when people get attacked by "roaming" pit bulls is that those pit bulls are more than likely trained to fight. When dogs are trained to fight they are basically tortured. They are forced to fight. People use cattle prods and tazers to rile them up so they will attack what ever is in front of them (usually some small dog). They also feed them gun powder or bleach and many other harmful items just so it will eat away at their stomach and cause them to be more irritated and violent because their stomach is being eaten away.

Here are some pictures to look at http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/sadreality/1.php

Basically the media blows everything way out of proportion. If you really want to learn a lot more about how bad everything is for these breeds do a little research on Breed Specific Legislation. Some of the things people do to dogs will blow your mind.

Also, the Pit Bull used to be the symbol of america, everyone used to love them. The pit bull was the first war hero dog, his name was Stubby and he saved many lives and even received several medals and was honored at the white house. The National Canine Temperament Testing Association tested 122 breeds, and Pit Bulls placed the 4th highest with a 95% passing rate!

Another link: http://www.sorryagain.com/
 
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I believe the #1 breed for bites right now is the Golden Retriever. Chow chows are also known for unprovoked biting. I have been training and showing dogs for over 15 years, and have been in dogs all my life. I also spent a few years working in a kennel and grooming. There are a lot of scary breeds out there, the least of them Pitbulls. The media is very biased in it's reporting of dog bites. No one wants to hear that the family Dachshund mix bit a kid in the face.
 
It's very sad that APBTs have this reputation. They were extremely popular years ago in families, until their genetic attributes cued the shady people to start using them as fight dogs. They also became popular in lower class areas due to being fantastic guardians. All of this abuse led to their current reputation as "vicious killers." Sucks, they're such a great breed.
 
Does everyone know that Michael Vick got a standing ovation his first time back on the field? Was that a "woo hoo" for torturing and killing dogs? Just wondering. I will not support anything he does, or anyone he endorses. Just my 2 cents.
 
Lisa, you are right Golden Retriever's and Lab's have some of the highest bite rates (I wrote a paper on BSL and dangerous breeds a few years ago and those two had the highest then). IMO, Michael Vick should rot in a kennel full of feces and have done to him what he did and allowed to be done to his dogs. I refuse to watch anything with Michael Vick on it. I hope the ratings for football games go down for his team.
 
hahaha, it seems like everyone is preaching to the choir for the most part, so I thought I would spice it up.

On a more related note, I love how fat pitbull faces are. They are so cute. Big dogs are the best dogs.
 
I would so hope a small dog would run of to me and try to attack. Football tactics work well in multiple aspects of life, including small dogs.:D
 
Banning a breed of dog is ignorant but then so many governments are. Pander to the masses with knee jerk, reactionary legislation. German Sheppard's can't bite? and that's a dog that was bred for guarding/attacking. Unless it was trained to be so I have never met a human aggressive " pit bull "

They are powerful animals and should be raised right unfortunately when you bring humans into the mix then the flaws begin.
 
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Banning a breed of dog is ignorant but then so many governments are. Pander to the masses with knee jerk, reactionary legislation. German Sheppard's can't bite? and that's a dog that was bred for guarding/attacking. Unless it was trained to be so I have never met a human aggressive " pit bull "

They are powerful animals and should be raised right unfortunately when you bring humans into the mix then the flaws begin.
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Actually, back in the late 60's and early 70's German Shepherds were the dog to hate. It was about as much fun to be a responsible owner of one then, as it is to be a Pit owner now.

All dogs were bred for a certain purpose, but now that dogs mostly live in the city with people and other animals, breeders need to work on taking out the "undesirable" traits out so these dogs can live in society. We no longer need dogs to kill lions, bait bulls, take down gazelle, etc.
 
jojackson said:
I think it all depends on the owners and how they are raised.

I agree, to a point. :)

lots of adults/kids are attacked by smaller dogs all the time, but you don't see that on the news.

This is true, but perhaps this is because smaller less powerful dogs dont often do this...

5-year-old-attack.gif


http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm

Personally I couldnt care less if they were successfully banned in my state. People get them for the wrong reason so often, and so often they are bred for their characteristic strength and stature, they were hunting dogs instinctively.
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I dont think raising pits to be nice has anything to do with it.Unfortunately, I speak from experience. Three years ago my now 6 yr. old son was severely mauled by my pit. She was the sweetest dog ever. I have had three pits over the years......she was the sweetest,then,one day,she snapped. She was raised in the best conditions to be a nice dog. She never showed aggression toward people. Some say that their brains grow too big for their skull. As for my son he has been undergoing surgeries for the past three years.He has one or two to go yet. At one time ,I was the biggest advocate for pits."It is how you raise them" I would tell people.
 
How you raise them has everything to do with it, but you can never ever forget what breed of dog this is. That means, not leaving it alone with your kids and NOT allowing your kids to get into the dogs face (one of the leading causes for bites) ever.

I agree on the Golden Retriever thing. I have both. And the Golden will bite before the pit. He's the one we always have to scold because he's snapped on the pit or on the chihuahua. Though the rat dog deserves it.

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