Eggs without males

Discussion in 'Chameleon Breeding' started by weezact7, Oct 5, 2010.

  1. weezact7

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    So, my female chameleon just laid some eggs. She has not been with a male since I've had her (over a year). So, my question is: Will these eggs hatch and should be incubated, or do they need to be fertilized to hatch?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Ace

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    they will not hatch, they are UNfertilized eggs.......what chamwlwon do you have?
     
  3. VeiledOwner87

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    how can embryos be produced without sperm? hehehe honest question but a silly one. :) nah im just kidden, its forum humor ;) they do need to be fertile, the only way i would find it worth incubating without knowing if shes bred or not would be if you got her at a petstore or an unknown supplier that could have housed the chameleons together. or if she was bought gravid.
     
  4. Ace

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    haha!!!!...lol:D:p
     
  5. weezact7

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    Thanks

    No, she's been in my house alone for well over a year. I was pretty sure the eggs wouldn't be viable, but I believe there are some animals that can do that (though I may be wrong), so I wanted to be absolutely sure chameleons were not one of them. Thanks for the info.
     
  6. Monties1982

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    Actually, some animals are capable of producing fertilized eggs without mating. It's called parthenogenesis. The babies end up being genetic copies of the mother. I remember hearing that there is speculation that a species of pygmy chameleon might be capable of parthenogenesis, but I don't remember which one.
     
  7. Ace

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    there is a lizard that only has females, forgot the name though:p, but some females "act" like males to stimulate the procees of mating and BAM!!! "parthenogenisis:cool:
     
  8. Bokaru

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    Chams can store sperm. Couldn't find anything saying how long, but I think a year is too long. Chances are these are just infirtle. I would imagine if they were going to be fertile they would have been laid a long time ago.
     
  9. kinyonga

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  10. Syn

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    kinyonga beat me to mentioning mourning geckos.

    There have been various times where a gecko can parthenogenically err, create, when they have been thought to be non-parthenogenic.

    One example is a Rhacodactylus leachianus, I wish I had the link, but it is online somewhere..
     
  11. PedroANDAshley

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    Just rememebr you should start keeping an egg laying bin in there for her so
    she can deposit eggs and not become egg bound.

    the bin needs to be 12 inches deep minimum and most of
    the time people used washed moist playsand for substrate to
    dig in.

    Make sure to cut back on her feeding to every other day because the fatter she is the
    more eggs she lays which is unhealthy.

    Some one should post the raising kitty link in here cuz I lost it :p
     
  12. james L

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    Has she ever been bred? If so there is a chance she could have some fertile ones in the mix. Some chams do retain sperm. I would incubate them and keep a close eye on the eggs. Pull the obvious bad eggs out when they start to rot. Goodluck!
     
  13. Elizadolots

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    Doesn't the type of chameleon factor in as well? I thought I'd read that Carpet females need only have been bred once.* If there's any chance that she was ever housed with a male (at the store? during transport to America?) Carpet eggs might be fertile.

    *I think the article said that each clutch would have fewer and fewer fertilized eggs if she was not bred again.
     

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