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Old 01-23-2013, 04:57 PM
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question about repashy calcium plus

I just received my first bag of repashy calcium plus today.IV always been told to dust every feeding with regular calcium...2 times a month with d3 and 2 times a month with repashy calcium plus.the bag says to dust with calcium plus every feeding.can someone please steer me.n the right direction
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:58 PM
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Im interested in this also. Was looking at this earlier in the store today. They were out of calcium without d3 so I wanted to wait and do some reading. Its hard to find calcium without d3. They all seem to have it.
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Look through this thread: Repashy Calcium plus input
It's a question that has been asked a lot this past week so it's easier for you to see what has already been said. There's a lot that goes into your question!
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Thanks a bunch.that says alot.I think I will dust with it twice a month just to b on the safe side...hanks again olimpia
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You're welcome! Sorry to take the easy way out but we've had some great discussions about this over the last couple days, so better to let you see what's been said than give you a synopsis.
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I only dust twice a month my boy is old so i wouldn't want to risk anything with him especially since hes my only cham. . . . for now. . .
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It is an excellent supplement that does away with everything else, but it kills chameleons. DO NOT use as directed. That's all I have gotten out of these threads. I'm still confused.
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:10 PM
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It's inconclusive that they kill chameleons, since only one member (that I know of) seems to think this was the cause of several deaths. The Kammers use it exclusively and recommend it for daily use, but we don't know their husbandry in detail so a supplement that may work for them daily may be overkill for someone else with different husbandry. That's what you should get from these threads You just have to take into consideration the amount of UV your chameleon gets daily/weekly/monthly, how well you're gut loading, the variety of your feeders, gender, age, and species of chameleon, etc.

It's supplement that is excellent but you need to put a little thought into how to use it. I personally use it a couple times weekly or less, depending on who I'm feeding, with Repashy no D3 calcium for the remaining feedings. I don't use an additional multivitamin or calcium with D3, as there is no need.
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I have been PMed by 4 other members here that lost chameleons, 2 others on another forum that lost a chameleon & had problems with some others, and at least 2 other members here have posted in the threads that they caught the ill effects early enough to prevent the serious problems I had.....for what it's worth Olimpia.


A lot of people fear speaking out against 'brands'...but it's not just me who is having a problem with the product.

Rightfully so in a sue-happy country I guess.
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This is the original endorsement by the Kammers, Olimpia.

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After close to three years of trials using Calcium Plus as the only supplement for selected groups of our Panther Chameleons, we are delighted to report excellent results! During our testing we have successfully raised hundreds of baby Panther Chameleons, using Calcium Plus as the exclusive supplement for those babies. Calcium Plus, from Repashy Superfoods, is an “All in One” insect dusting product, providing essential vitamins, calcium, minerals and trace elements. Easy and effective, you can now use one product every time you feed your Panther instead of rotating between several different products. Your life just got easier! We have been impressed with Allen’s science (https://www.store.repashy.com/calcium-and-d-3.html) from the beginning and feel his company is on the cutting edge of herp nutrition . . . but with so much at stake, we needed to “SEE” the results for ourselves before we would consider recommending Calcium Plus to “our own customers”. Well, based on the results we have witnessed for close to three years now (with hundreds of our own Panthers), we are believers! It is with great enthusiasm that we are now promoting Calcium Plus as the best alternative for each and every time you dust your feeder insects for your Panther Chameleon(s).

I also used and continue to use Repashy regularly for babies, I think it's great for babies once or even twice a week for the first month or so. Did the Kammers keep ALL those hundreds of babies to see how they ended up? Or did they wholesale most of them to petstores never to hear about them again? to wholesalers? To the public?

Allen's 'science' is for crested geckos almost exclusively, along with some leopard gecko & bearded dragon research. NOWHERE in that link provided even mentions chameleons and the only 'science' is one breeder's opinion that gives actually no basis or details for their opinion.

Nowhere in the endorsement does it say they used it for adults. Males vs Females. Allen states "Ed said that he wouldn't endorse any product until he raised hatchlings on it, bred them, and raised their offspring through reproductive activity . " But did that actually happen or was it just said? Was it really just babies that were mostly given this supplement?

Do the Kammer's chameleons live 2 or 3 years as they are part of a business' breeding colony? Do they live for 7 or 8 years like us hobbyists strive for? That is a big question as well.

Were they all kept outdoors, indoors? What kind of UV lights are used?

What variety of feeders & gutloads were used? How often were they fed?

So many questions and literally no answers, just a deadline to get a product on the market.
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