quad eggs hatching (need supplement advice)

I have 16 T. q. quadricornis eggs, laid on 11/28/11, that started hatching today. So far, 7 have hatched. I watched 3 of them emerge in less than a minute. Hopefully that is a good sign of their overall strength. Specifically, I'm looking for advice from those of you who have successfully raised quads from neonates to adulthood. I'm particularly wanting to know what supplements you used and the frequency in addition to what UVB source you used. Other things will be helpful too like type/size of cage, type of feeders, misting method and whether you raised the neonates separately from the beginning or housed them communally for a time.

Thanks,
Perry

Congrats on your new babies. I just hatched some baby quads in the beginning of the year. They are 4 months old and I'm ready to sell. Here is a link that I found helpful
https://www.chameleonforums.com/little-something-unusual-66718/
It's from a member named luarie! If you haven't heard from her yet, just wait. I'm sure she will find you. Quads are her passion.

Good luck with the babies.

-mikey

Btw, I use a 5.0 light for UVB in butterfly cages housed together for a couple months. At 4 months i still have 2 of mine housed together without any signs of stress. Watering is taken care of with an automated misting system set up in a bathtub set to mist 4-5 times a day.
Daytime temp around 75* with a night time drop sometimes creeping into the mid 50's at times. read up on supps though as these lizards don't need all the vit a. First few months I'd suggest keep a fresh supply of fruit flies ( easy to breed) and pinhead crickets (a little harder to breed, but worth the try. You will have 16 hungry babies to feed)

Don't forget to heavily plant the cage, they need their privacy. You know for being such shy creatures.

Hello, yes I admit it, I am a quad lover. The link Mikey gave you is for my deremensis but the method is the same. I used several small cages instead of one large, oi i could keep track, making sure the were all there after I closed the door, there was not a ton of leftover food, none looked skinny, just all the dumb crap.

I found keeping them well hydrated form the beginning really helped. I had a 100% survival rate. On other clutches I waited until week 2 for uvb, with this bunch they got it all from day one, except supplements. I waited until week 2 then only 2 x a week until the hit 3 months. Then I went to a regular schedule. The only other things I do different is offer fruit fly's longer than most people, and I alway kept the humidity way up. I ram a humidifier a large part of the time. I but cheap crane brand humidifiers from Target. I like the elephant nose one cause I can point it at the cage. I have been using the 4 I have for 4 years and all are still working.

If you have more questions, or anything, send me a pm. I am always here. Also pictures make me very happy.

Thanks Mikey.

How many eggs did you have and how many of them hatched? Of those that hatched, how many made it to the 4 month mark? If you lost any, how old were they when you lost them? What supplements did you use and what frequency did you use? I believe Laurie told me once that she gave her quads a drop of preformed vitamin A once a month. Not sure what supplements she gave her neonates though or whether any of her babies developed edema.

Perry

Hey Laurie,

Glad to see you saw my post and thanks for the info. I posted before and asked about preformed vitamin A. If I remember correctly, you said you gave your quads (the adults) one drop of preformed vitamin A once a month. Correct? What about your neonate quads? What supplements and how often? Did any of your most recent neonates develop edema? So far, 11 of the 16 eggs laid have hatched. I've lost hope for two of the eggs but am hopeful for the other three. When you said you had 100% success, what species were you referring to? I've had my fair share of incubating and hatching quad eggs since the mid 90s but ironically, the most "successes" I had with quad neonates was when I first started with them. I've kept and bred over a dozen species over the past 25 years but as with anything, the more I learn, the more I find there is to learn. Failures are a great way of keeping a person humble.

Perry

Sadly out of 13 eggs I only ended up with 4 health Quads that seem to amaze me. (You have to sit there and watch them as they quietly seek up on a cricket and the catch it by surprise. Love it!)

About 3 eggs split but never emerged. A couple just deflated. And the rest lived only about a day or two after hatching.

My only baby that lived longer than a few weeks before it died, I just found hanging upside down at the base of its tree. It was at least a month old and I never figured out why it died.

Laurie touched base on her supps and I do remember luarie saying she gives her adults a drop of vit A, she was kind of worried she'd get negative feedback for that, but who would do such a thing!

-mikey