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Old 06-13-2008, 04:01 PM
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When you took Rambo to the vet, did you get an X-ray done? I'm asking because it could be a bone infection. Is so the swelling is unlikely to go away untirely, even if the infection is cured.
Nope he never went to the vet for this issue, just the initial check up.....so no x-rays. We have just been conversing. If it were a bone infection what is the cause and wouldn't I see some result from the antibiotic?
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Where would one go to get this honey?
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You can order it off the internet, not sure about suppliers in the states, but from what I've heard you guys buy more 'alternative' medicines than we do, so it should be easy to get hold of.
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Id like to see a video of him "flapping" his lobes,ive always thought mellers were really cool. Id also like to see your enclosure Hope his ankle becomes better.
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Old 06-13-2008, 05:30 PM
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Just my opinion .. but,
I wouldn't feed honey to a chameleon.
It's dangerous to feed to baby human beings (bochilism).
And as previously stated, it is certainly not part of a natural chameleon diet.

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Old 06-13-2008, 05:59 PM
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I would stay off the honey
*small amounts* may be fine
but the simple sugars may cause some serious problems
with the intestinal microflora.

a bite would show teeth marks
I don't see any here in the picts
it looks like it's a crushing injury but not a chameleon bite
if it spreads then you've got a problem
otherwise I think it'll heal up.
maybe he got it caught in the branches outside?
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:10 AM
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Nope he never went to the vet for this issue, just the initial check up.....so no x-rays. We have just been conversing. If it were a bone infection what is the cause and wouldn't I see some result from the antibiotic?
The results would necessarily be visible on the outside - the swelling may not change much. What will happen is that once the infection in dealt with the body will start healing the break and the swollen area will harden (not a vet so I'm not sure I'm explaining right).
Bone infections usually occur around broken bones. He could have gotten the broken bone when he was collected from the wild or anytime after that. I had a montium with 2 broken bones that weren't obvious except on x-ray. One break had healed on it's own, the other one was infected. We put the little guy on batryl for 3 weeks and that did the trick. Ofcourse batryl will only work is the infection is caused by a gram negative bacterium. If it's something else (fungal, for instance) it has to be treated differently.
Either way, I think a week of Batryl is very short. According to my vet (again) it needs to be at least 10 days to make sure the infection is fully cleared. A shorter treatment can make the bacteria causing the infection resistant to batryl (just like with antibiotics for humans).
Bone infections are very tricky, but I have had 2 chams that survived it without needed surgery (the montium passed away after 2 years, still have a ~ 3.5 year old melleri with a healed bone infection).
I don't mean to scare you - it could be something else - but I would have that leg x-rayed.

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Old 06-14-2008, 11:57 AM
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The results would necessarily be visible on the outside - the swelling may not change much. What will happen is that once the infection in dealt with the body will start healing the break and the swollen area will harden (not a vet so I'm not sure I'm explaining right).
Bone infections usually occur around broken bones. He could have gotten the broken bone when he was collected from the wild or anytime after that. I had a montium with 2 broken bones that weren't obvious except on x-ray. One break had healed on it's own, the other one was infected. We put the little guy on batryl for 3 weeks and that did the trick. Ofcourse batryl will only work is the infection is caused by a gram negative bacterium. If it's something else (fungal, for instance) it has to be treated differently.
Either way, I think a week of Batryl is very short. According to my vet (again) it needs to be at least 10 days to make sure the infection is fully cleared. A shorter treatment can make the bacteria causing the infection resistant to batryl (just like with antibiotics for humans).
Bone infections are very tricky, but I have had 2 chams that survived it without needed surgery (the montium passed away after 2 years, still have a ~ 3.5 year old melleri with a healed bone infection).
I don't mean to scare you - it could be something else - but I would have that leg x-rayed.

Good luck,
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Thank you for your perspective and insight used to help answer my question and figure out the current situation. The mas does feel pretty hard to me. I'm a bit confused about the X-ray bit. How would you know if it's a broken bone (just from MBD or something) vrs. an INFECTED broken bone? I'd like to emphasize that it hasn't gotten any worse, but it hasn't really gotten too much better either. The Melleri that you have now that has recovered from the bone infection, what does the site look like. Is it swollen or does it look normal?

I've also noticed on She-ra that one of her outside fingers on her left hand is also a bit swollen.

I suppose I should seriously consider taking Rambo over to the vet next week. I've been holding off b/c it hasn't seemed to get worse or affect his daily living habits, and I didn't want to stress him more than necessary, plus the vet is over a couple hours from where I am now. Next week from Tampa it would be an hour to Orlando. I'll talk it over with the vet while gathering some more ideas (hopefully from you great people on the forums) and go from their...... I'm hoping Kristina will chime in soon
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WTB pics of cage and the video of him flapping his lobes
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WTB pics of cage and the video of him flapping his lobes
Haha Please hold your horses! Not only did i leave the cable in Tpa bult also my battery charger....so it will have to wait till Mon. My camera stinks too, so don't expect to be too impressed
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I'm a bit confused about the X-ray bit. How would you know if it's a broken bone (just from MBD or something) vrs. an INFECTED broken bone?
If the break is infected it will show no sign of healing, instead there will actually be bone missing - the infection eats away the bone.
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