Inbreeding/Inline breeding

As I have recently learned it is acceptable for some breeder to inbreed their leopard geckos and was wondering if it is healthy/acceptable for chameleon breeders to do the same.

While it is not healthy, or IMO acceptable especially with readily available species, it can be done without many problems until a few generations down.

i turn you to the movie wrong turn. that mixed with the green stuff they drink is pritty terribl. ech.

okiroo said:

i turn you to the movie wrong turn. that mixed with the green stuff they drink is pritty terribl. ech.

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what???

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I'm pretty sure that in the wild it happens, especially with extremely isolated species. I don't think relentless breeding of siblings over and over is a good thing, but a few generations is probablly O.K.

it was a joke. scrary grossish movie. animals inbreed all the time. its ok for a gen or 2 or more depending on the animal and how often they actually do that in the wild.

I am under the impression that the only time you do it is when you are trying to create a population of a certain trait. Inbreeding will will give a greater chance of producing offspring with that trait, but you have to be careful to NOT breed any imperfect offspring because inbreeding increases the risk of negative recessive traits showing up.

moviemanmania said:

As I have recently learned it is acceptable for some breeder to inbreed their leopard geckos and was wondering if it is healthy/acceptable for chameleon breeders to do the same.

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Why would it be more or less acceptable in different species? IMHO it shouldn't matter what species you are talking about, at least within the same trophic level (ie: different species of insectivorous reptiles versus a virus compared to a mammal).

Sure inbreeding can happen in the wild, but benefits that may result from it probably select for fitness or survival in a minor way (resistance to disease or a parasite), not a trait that humans like (ie color intensity or tone, docility). And, I doubt it happens for more than one or two generations because most individuals just don't survive to breed as long. And, if a population is so small that inbreeding occurs a lot, the population tends to decline in reproductive and genetic vigor even if the individuals are not suffering from deformities. There's a point beyond which a wild population can't survive the effects of natural inbreeding.

moviemanmania said:

As I have recently learned it is acceptable for some breeder to inbreed their leopard geckos and was wondering if it is healthy/acceptable for chameleon breeders to do the same.

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Not necessarily healthy or acceptable, but it does happen. You may find this previous thread on the topic of interest:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/true-27168/

Every species of animal bred for sale has been purposely inbred at some point or another (usually multiple points) by breeders seeking certain traits over others. It's part of why there are so many morphs and breeds of certain species. Acceptable? Depends on who you ask... It's not any more acceptable in some species over others, just depends on who finds out about it and how much they care. Jmo

Inbreeding

I don't think Inbreeding is ever a good idea. It screws up genes and weakens the animals. Not a professional opinion just my own.

i think so, im pretty sure thats what happens in the wild