How big should a 3-4 month old Veiled Chameleon be?

Hi, my little Veiled Chameleon (Darwin meh budddy) is looking very small! I will post pics when i can get a good one in a min. here. but he seems too small! should he be showing his colours now? i just seen pics of Luie and Camilles babies (sorry if i butchered the names) and they are like the size of my female thats about 11 months and should mine be a bit bigger? hes only about 3 inches h/v. so i would love some input too. he eats up to 12 circkets a day and 3 small dubia. (no supers yet hes too small to eat them he just ignores them)
thanks Zac

These babies are between 3 and 4 months old. https://www.chameleonforums.com/luie-camille-babies-16-weeks-old-44083/index4.html

Janns babies are just big lol. At 4 months my veiled started to get some of his barring. Here is mine at 3 months

what the?! my little guy has hardly no barring at all! he puffs up and hisses and changes slightly darker but hes not gettin gmuch barring or as big as Luie and Camille! is he possibly younger than i thought? hes getting his casque though so ik hes growing! D:

Well post pics. He huffs up and hisses at you because you're messing with him. How much do you feed him?

Yes, Jann's babies are huge for their age!!! Most are not that big. I have 2 of Jann's one is big and the other is smaller. My other 2 babies are about 2 wks behind Jann's and are nowhere near the size of hers!!! My smaller ones are fussy eaters. They eat, just not as much. It's hard to compare, cuz they do grow at their own pace. Just as long as they are healthy!!

here he is as of today.. he doesn't mind me holding him but if i let him go on a plant he shows small blotches of darkened colour... and the pic is off my phone. my camera is crap... also.

Thompson said:

Well post pics. He huffs up and hisses at you because you're messing with him. How much do you feed him?

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he eats up to 12 crickets or so. not for sure what i said up above and started eating atleast 3 small dubias.

Your chams back legs look a little bowed. Is it just me or do they look like this to anyone else?

Thompson said:

Your chams back legs look a little bowed. Is it just me or do they look like this to anyone else?

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yeah i noticed that too. it doesn't seem to be affecting him... i am trying to give him more calcium but he doesn't care for it much... what should i do?

Well if he has mbd you need to take him to the vet so they can give him some liquid calcium to stop the mbd. Try to take him outside also, that helps a lot.

Thompson said:

Well if he has mbd you need to take him to the vet so they can give him some liquid calcium to stop the mbd. Try to take him outside also, that helps a lot.

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alrighty... i will get ahold of the vet today and see how much it will cost to check up on him.. and delilah too (just for safety purposes) and talk to my mom too! I hope he doesn't have MBD my female seems to have the bowing of the back legs too! but ik shes never had a supplement in her life until she came to live with me.

They both probably have mbd. It is gonna cost you a lot so explain that to your mom. It cost me 100$ for an x-ray and 150$ for meds! You need to get calcium supplement and a calcium supplement with d3 and a multivitamin supp. Dust with the calcium 6x a week and dust with the d3 and multivitamins for twice a month each.

Thompson said:

They both probably have mbd. It is gonna cost you a lot so explain that to your mom. It cost me 100$ for an x-ray and 150$ for meds! You need to get calcium supplement and a calcium supplement with d3 and a multivitamin supp. Dust with the calcium 6x a week and dust with the d3 and multivitamins for twice a month each.

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i was just out the door to get supplements from the petstore and realized that they close in 10 mins.

Well you better get a move on it

ChameleonRave said:

yeah i noticed that too. it doesn't seem to be affecting him... i am trying to give him more calcium but he doesn't care for it much... what should i do?

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I noticed the back leg too. So you are saying you have never dusted your chams food with calcium powder??? How are you administering calcium?

I think you need to fill out this form. We need to see if you're doing everything correct for your chams.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/

Cainschams said:

I noticed the back leg too. So you are saying you have never dusted your chams food with calcium powder??? How are you administering calcium?

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i dust their food! the female when she came to me she never had a supplement in her life! and i just checked on her. it looked like it was bowed but it was part of the plant she was hiding behind.

ChameleonRave said:

i was just out the door to get supplements from the petstore and realized that they close in 10 mins.

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Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care? about 2 months
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? whenever i put him in a plant to free range or when i have to clean the cage
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders? small crickets, dubias, occasional mealworm, everday since he is young. i use potatoes, carrots and apples.
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? reptivite, and t-rex calcium with phosphorus w/d3 i give him reg. calcium ever other feeding. and d3 twice a month
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? i spray his cage down thouroughly 3-4 times a day and have a constant dripper. yes i see my cham drink. and i mist for atleast 3 min. each time.
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? he is a solid green some more colours slowly developing, his fecies is perfectly fine and same with urate it is very white. he has never has been tested for parasites.
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
none.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? he is in a glass/screen combo. 12"x12"x18"
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? exo terra rainforest 5.0 and for 12 hrs. a day.
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps? his temp is around 75-80. 80 for basking temp.
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity? i have a hygrometer and it is usually around 60-80% i mist the cage to keep up humidity.
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? i am using pothos and a spider plant mixed with fake plants.
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? he is in my bedroom away from the window. and the ac. is across the room. he is in a low traffic area. it is approx. 4-5 high off the ground.
Location - Where are you geographically located? Watertown, SD