My male veiled will not eat if i am around. He will wait till i am out of sight. My female will start eating the crickets that are being poured out of the container into her cup. So it just depends on the chameleons personality. Hey m1ndless, there is a place in tempe called pets inc. They sell dubia roaches a dozen for 2 dollars. It's a good price considering how much they sell online. You should go get a couple of them for your cham.

You are an excellent example of a chameleon keeper. You've done tons of research and asked lots of questions before ever getting a cham rather than letting it be an impulse buy. I want to congratulate you on that, and congratulate you on your first cham.

JV

I misted 3 times, the water seemed to dry up quickly, and the humuidity would drop to 35%, is that normal? Should I mist more often or what? I think AZ is toooo dry.

Thank you very much for the info, and the compliment!

That is a good price, are they like forzen alive or dead? I want to get some to breed so I can save money on food.

I live way up in N. Phoenix, but if I can make it to tempe I will get some roaches, thanks for the advice!

Is it safe to keep my crix out in my storage shed at night? It gets to like 45 at night here, will the cirx die? Maybe ill set up a heat lamp in there or something

Veileds are a desert species and don't need high humidity, just enough water to drink and keep hydrated.

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Alright, so it it gets down to 30-40% humitidy, that is fine? The water droplets seem to stick to the sides and live plant, and stayed there for a good time, ill just make sure to mist often, and let it dry out completly between mistings.

Right, i mist 3 times a day and run a constant slow dripper. I leave my crickets and Dubias in the garage with no problem. They seem to get by with the coldness and only minor death. The dubias on the other hand can't take cold temps like that, so i have them in a big rubbermaid container as well, but i have a standard heat pad under them set to a timer to turn on 45 minutes, and off for 30 throughout the day. they seem to do fine with that.
At pets inc they will not sell you male adults, but they will sell you female adults. So you'd have to wait for the babies to reach adulthood which is around 3 months or so. But you can always buy a bunch of adult females from pets inc. and then order from blapticadubia.com a mixed batch, and order some breeding pairs, you can request to have all males instead of a male and female breeder. for 50 mixed sizes and 4 adult pairs your looking at 35 bucks or so in total including shipping.

Oh and they are alive

I might get jumped on for this, but I wouldn't mist very often. If you use some type of drip system he will be able to drink at his leisure and will not need much misting. If you put the dripper so that the water dropletts fall onto leaves and branches, he will drink off them. I don't think he will benefit much from being misted often, and my veileds always seemed to get a bit stressed when I blasted them with the spray bottle. It helps during shedding though...

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The frozen ones are alive?

I can keep the roaches with a heating pad, that will work.

I am going to get a dripper soon, I am just trying to figure out how I can set it up without my cham being able to get in, I need some screen to put over the top.

For the cricket tub, I got a big rubbermaid tub, and drilled like 50 holes in the top with a small drill bit, is that enough air for them?

No they are not frozen at all. They breed them there at pets inc.
The holes should be enough, i cut out a hole on top of my rubbermaid and hot glued some screen to it. I have a video of my cricket tub on http://www.keepingchameleons.com/diy.html under cricket keeper.

while i do agree that veiled can withstand extreme humidities and temperature, i disagree with letting the humidity drops below 40% for his sake (35% is a still acceptable. But, I would not let the humidity drops to this too often).

C.Calyptratus live in a coastal plain that rise steep into mountainous regions up to 12,000 feet. When red sea evaporates the condensation moves upward to these regions causing the place to have high humidity. The idea that Yemen is dry and arid is a common misconception.

Just because they can withstand the extremes, does not mean that we have to let them endure the extremeties in captivity.

Depending on your area, mindless. You will need to assess whether you need to mist more or less (or adding more live plants).
Since you did say that your area is too dry, misting more might not hurt you in the long process.
as long as you let the enclosure to dry up in between misting.
My room can be extremely dry during winter. It can drop all the way to 15%.
Therefore, i mist 4 times a day (5 minutes per misting).
I used to follow the "normal" misting procedures (2 times, 30 seconds). And, I immediately get a dehydrated chameleon within 3 days.

Just keep in mind, to never let the humidity drops lower than 40% (no higher than 70%)
and make sure the urate is white and the eyes are not sunken at all.
Some chameleons drink during misting session (like mine) and some are leaves lapper.
Adjust your misting and watering method base on your chameleon's behavior.

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