can anybody know where i can find a website that tells you what all the nutritional values of feeders i found 1 the other day but cant seem to find it again any help would be great

in here in this site there is a big list posted by Brad ( i think) but yea its here

Here's one........

http://www.ent.iastate.edu/misc/insectnutrition.html

It doesn't really give much of a selection of bugs though, i'll keep searching for you.

ill have to have a really good look round here then if not ill try get hold of brad and ask him

ive found the 1 from brad cheers for that

i saved it to my comp and here it is posted by Brad


Cricket: 75.6% moisture, 16.8% protein, 5.6% fat, 1.2% ash, 0.8% other.
Mealworm: 61.4% moisture, 20% protein, 14.3% fat, 1.3% ash, 5.2% other.
Zophoba: 58.7% moisture, 19.3% protein, 17.6% fat, 1.0% ash, 3.4% other.
Waxworm: 62.6% moisture, 15.8% protein, 20.4% fat, 0.8% ash, 0.4% other.
Flightless Fruitfly: 59.6% moisture, 19.7% protein, 13.8% fat, 1.7% ash, 5.2% other.

More Specific Analysis:

American Cockroach: 38.7% dry matter (dm), 53.9% crude protein(cp), 28.4% ether extract (crude fat) (ee), 3.3% ash (total minerals), 9.4% acid detergent fiber (adf), gross energy 6.07 kilocalories per gram (kcal/g)
0.20% calcium (Ca), 0.50% phosphorus (P), 0.08% magnesium (Mg), 0.27% sodium (Na), 0.87% potassium (K)14 parts per million (ppm) copper (Cu), 90 ppm iron (Fe), 57 ppm zinc (Zn), 5 ppm manganese (Mn), 0.36 ppm selenium (Se).

Cricket: 31.0% dm, 64.9% cp, 13.8% ee, 5.7% ash, 9.4% adf, 5,34 kcal/g, 0.14 Ca%, 0.99%P, 0.13%Mg, 0.49%Na, 1.29%K, 28ppm Cu, 58 ppm Fe, 188ppm Zn, 31ppm Mn, 0.58ppm Se.

Fruitfly: 29.6% dm, 70.1% cp, 12.6% ee, 4.5% ash, 27.0% adf, 5.12 kcal/g, 0.10% Ca, 1.05% P, 0.08% Mg, 0.42% Na, 1.06% K, 18ppm Cu, 1.38ppm Fe, 171ppm Zn, 39ppm Mn, 0.07ppm Se.

Mealworm: 37.6% dm, 52.7% cp, 32.8% ee, 3.2% ash, 5.7% adf, 6.49 kcal/g, 0.11% Ca, 0.77% P, 0.22% Mg, 0.14% Na, 0.91% K, 19ppm Cu, 43ppm Fe, 100ppm Zn, 14ppm Mn, 0.31ppm Se.

Zophoba: 40.9% dm, 45.3% cp, 55.1%ee, 2.9% ash, 7.2% adf, 7.08 kcal/g, 0.16% Ca, 0.59% P, 0.12% Mg, 0.10% Na, 0.72% K, 14ppm Cu, 59ppm Fe, 80ppm Zn, 1.3ppm Mn, 0.40ppm Se.

Waxworm: 34.1% dm, 42.4% cp, 46.4% ee, 2.7% ash, 4.8% adf, 7.06 kcal/g, 0.11% Ca, 0.62% P, 0.11% Mg, 0.05% Na, 0.72% K, 9ppm Cu, 22ppm Fe, 76ppm Zn, 3ppm Mn, 0.66ppm Se.

Are you still awake?
I have analysis showing the nutritional improvement of insects gutloaded with the following recipe, but I will not bore you further. Suffice it to say it is decently improved. I can add this info later if someone wants to review it.
This data came from Timberline, Covance Laboratories in Madison Wisconsin, Mary E. Allen of the National Zoological Park and Duane Ullrey of Comparative nutrition Laboratory at Michigan State University.

Here's the high calcium gutload recipe (note: the numbers are percentage by weight)

ground corn 8.3, dehydrated Alfalfa meal (17% crude protein) 10.0, dehulled and solvent extracted soybean meal (48% crude protein) 28.7, ground wheat 27.0, Calcium carbonate (38-40% Ca) 20.0, Dicalcium phosphate (21% Ca, 18% P) 2.0, salt 0.5, Vitamin premix (Herptivite) 0.25, soybean oil 3.0.

hope that helps

yes thats great cheers

you didnt post any info on silkworms.. i hear these things are great for any animal! what are the forums thoughts on silk worms though?

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i see that theres fat protein moisture and yada yada in all of them... what is the norm that my cham should be getting a day?? is there a specific amount or a round about??

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