What can I do for a Panther chameleon with a Vitamin A overload? anything could help from you experts... thank you

Brian

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Brian Aschenbach

For an overload , I would think reducing the Vit A intake or removing it altogether (Until you have it under control) and mist mist mist. Increasing Water intake would help flush the excess.

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Thanks for the quick reply. I have had him in the shower for the past 15 min. Another 15 min and then I'm going to have him in a cage with a serious amount of hiding spots, should I add an extra UVB light for him??? I am going to change his diet for a bit. Crickets have a high amount of protein. Are superworms better with that?

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Brian Aschenbach

If he could go outside in the sun that is always helpful with their health. I do not think an additional UVB light is necessary. Super worms and crickets are very close to the same nutrition except super worms have more fat. So crickets would be the healthy choice although supers are great feeders.

Cricket -

Moisture - 77.58%
Protein - 15.88%
Fat - 3.46%
Fiber - 2.4%

Super warm -

Moisture - 61.92%
Protein - 14.19%
Fat - 14.19%
Fiber - 2.6%
Calcium - 173ppm

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2.2 F. Lat. Lateralis, 4.3 F. Pardalis, 1.1 jacksonii xanth, 1.0 Veiled, 1.0 Rieppeleon brev., 0.0.1 Melleri, 41 Pumpkin eggs

Hi Brian,

What symptoms are you seeing? How is the cham doing, overall? How much were you supplementing with vit. A

Depending on the symptoms I would consider having a blood test done since hypervitaminosis can cause kidney and liver damage. In the meantime, lots of water is definitely a good idea.

- Suzanne

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My question is:
How do you know you're experiencing Vitamin A Overdosing?
what symptoms is your animal showing?

Have you had some testing of the animal?
Synthetic Vitamin A may not be metabolized out of the animals system
It's fat soluble and will stored in the liver
reference

I would try to feed a fatty diet to the animal in question
(if you're sure that it's been fed a over supplemented diet)
perhaps a few giant mealworms (not supers) they have a high fat content
and may help remove it from the liver deposits.
You just don't want to complicate matters be overdosing it on fatty foods
and give it a fatty non functioning liver... that will only make things worse.


get back to us ... good luck

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"In Target earlier today I learned there is really no good way to answer a 5-year-old asking you why you are looking at his mother's butt so much..."

im no expert but i know chris from clean line chams knows his stuff! his gf is a nutritionist so maybe she has some knowledge that can help you.

Well thanks Luis.

Brian, jeweledchameleons is right on track. First, how do you know you overdosed vit A? The signs are the same for both hypovitaminosis A and hypervitaminosis A. If you have overdosed it is normally correct through diet change, extreme at first with very little or no vitamin A (proform is ok because it won't be converted if not needed). So a diet of gutloaded crickets and silkies would be fine, no super or meal worms (many times their bedding has preformed A in it) and no roaches (they can convert beta carotene to preformed A). So, if it were me I would try to give him a lot of high fatty foods, the only one that comes to mind that is not in preformed vit A bedding is wax worms. Then tomorrow give him a warm misting for a while, try to make him poop.

-Chris

how about hornworms as opposed to wax worms?

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Possibly, I have had a hard time trying to find nutritional breakdown of hornworms. I think they are high in protein and somewhat low in fat (I want to say I read that it was like 3% fat)???? IDK

Chris