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Old 10-05-2010, 08:53 PM
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Eggs without males

So, my female chameleon just laid some eggs. She has not been with a male since I've had her (over a year). So, my question is: Will these eggs hatch and should be incubated, or do they need to be fertilized to hatch?

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Old 10-05-2010, 08:56 PM
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they will not hatch, they are UNfertilized eggs.......what chamwlwon do you have?
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So, my female chameleon just laid some eggs. She has not been with a male since I've had her (over a year). So, my question is: Will these eggs hatch and should be incubated, or do they need to be fertilized to hatch?

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how can embryos be produced without sperm? hehehe honest question but a silly one. nah im just kidden, its forum humor they do need to be fertile, the only way i would find it worth incubating without knowing if shes bred or not would be if you got her at a petstore or an unknown supplier that could have housed the chameleons together. or if she was bought gravid.
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how can embryos be produced without sperm? hehehe honest question but a silly one. nah im just kidden, its forum humor they do need to be fertile, the only way i would find it worth incubating without knowing if shes bred or not would be if you got her at a petstore or an unknown supplier that could have housed the chameleons together. or if she was bought gravid.
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No, she's been in my house alone for well over a year. I was pretty sure the eggs wouldn't be viable, but I believe there are some animals that can do that (though I may be wrong), so I wanted to be absolutely sure chameleons were not one of them. Thanks for the info.
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how can embryos be produced without sperm? hehehe honest question but a silly one. nah im just kidden, its forum humor they do need to be fertile, the only way i would find it worth incubating without knowing if shes bred or not would be if you got her at a petstore or an unknown supplier that could have housed the chameleons together. or if she was bought gravid.
Actually, some animals are capable of producing fertilized eggs without mating. It's called parthenogenesis. The babies end up being genetic copies of the mother. I remember hearing that there is speculation that a species of pygmy chameleon might be capable of parthenogenesis, but I don't remember which one.
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Actually, some animals are capable of producing fertilized eggs without mating. It's called parthenogenesis. The babies end up being genetic copies of the mother. I remember hearing that there is speculation that a species of pygmy chameleon might be capable of parthenogenesis, but I don't remember which one.
there is a lizard that only has females, forgot the name though, but some females "act" like males to stimulate the procees of mating and BAM!!! "parthenogenisis
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Chams can store sperm. Couldn't find anything saying how long, but I think a year is too long. Chances are these are just infirtle. I would imagine if they were going to be fertile they would have been laid a long time ago.
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Mourning geckos and whip tails reproduce through parthenogenesis.....as can Komodo dragons...
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../4441021a.html
http://www.globalgeckos.com/mourning...spotlight.html

I read the article about one species of chameleon using that method too...but I don't remember which pygmy species it was either.

I doubt that the eggs would be viable after a year...but it doesn't hurt to incubate them and see....or post a picture and we can likely tell you.
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kinyonga beat me to mentioning mourning geckos.

There have been various times where a gecko can parthenogenically err, create, when they have been thought to be non-parthenogenic.

One example is a Rhacodactylus leachianus, I wish I had the link, but it is online somewhere..
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