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Old 09-24-2008, 02:53 PM
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Exclamation Eggs Hatching, is THIS NORMAL???

Today my boyfriend called to say that something funny was hatching out of our FIRST expected panther eggs that were laid at the end of March. We had been anticipating them to hatch, as they had shrunken in size.... (notice the size difference in the two eggs) For the entire incubation, they were placed in a drawer in the house at temps around the mid 70's while the humidity remained sufficient (moisture always collected on the top of the container). Here are two quick, crappy cell phone photos, apparently their seems to be movement from inside.....


Though this is my first time, I have a very strong assumption this isn't normal, and I would like to get some feedback from you guys. Have you ever seen anything like this before? Should I expect the entire clutch to turn out this way? What exactly is popping out of my eggs, and why is one bloody? Is their any specific course of action that should be taken with them? Thanks in advance for any and all replies pertaining to this issue.
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:57 PM
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Do they not have any pigment?
I've seen this once before.
A breeder showed me photos of his.
They died shortly after hatching.

Edit* Your incubation temps are very warm.
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:01 PM
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Dude it's not even a Chameleon coming out that I'm aware of (again I apologise for the camera quality). More of like some sort of MASS?? Jared says that that part isn't the chameleon, but their is movement from the egg, as far as the goo ball getting bigger?!?! I'll try to post one additional picture shortly.

*Edit: Sorry Justin, I meant to say mid 70's lol
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:03 PM
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How wierd? Could it be that temps in the 80's were a little high?

Edit: Never mind I caught your edit.
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Mid 80's is way high. Mid/low 70's are more appropriate. Keep us posted, id like to see what this ends up being.
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:43 PM
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Sorry guys, earlier I was pre-occupied at work. The eggs were just incubated at the ambient room temp of the house which was around the mid 70's
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I think your eggs were over hydrated and they swelled up prematurely. That sucks
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I didnt have any masses that actually made it out of the egg like that. Although I had eggs sweat and then do nothing. A week later i took a couple that did that and cut them open to find what looks like the masses in your pics. The eggs were definatly dead when I cut them. They were starting to brown and shrivle. I never did see an embryo or baby when cutting them open just the yolk I am guessing.
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Thanks for your responses.
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I think your eggs were over hydrated and they swelled up prematurely. That sucks
Hello! What leads you to believe that swelled prematurely due to hydration? Because it has only been 6mo incubation time? They were HUGE and then began to shrink. Also they were never observed sweating. I'm just a bit worried about my incubation technique now, as I have a drawer full of eggs besides this clutch
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I didn't have any masses that actually made it out of the egg like that. Although I had eggs sweat and then do nothing. A week later i took a couple that did that and cut them open to find what looks like the masses in your pics. The eggs were defiantly dead when I cut them. They were starting to brown and shrivel. I never did see an embryo or baby when cutting them open just the yolk I am guessing.
The odd thing about these eggs, is that they have never sweat that I'm aware of, and Jared says "they look dry not wet" lol It's just interesting because unlike your situation they have movement. With this particular clutch you are referring to did any of them make it, or were they ALL like that?
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Looks like the eggs are rupturing. Check you humidity - eggs will rupture if too moist. Or, could have just been a weak shell. Pull that stuff out and see what stage it is.
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