DE for chameleon?

justjumpit621

justjumpit621

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Okay so I have started giving diatomacious earth to my dog, cats, and chickens as a dewormer and precautionary regimen. My question is, has anyone used or heard of using DE for chameleons? If safe I would like to try it on Calais as well, because it is also a natural detox plus will kill any internal parasites. Thanks for input in advance! :)
 
justjumpit621 said:
Okay so I have started giving diatomacious earth to my dog, cats, and chickens as a dewormer and precautionary regimen. My question is, has anyone used or heard of using DE for chameleons? If safe I would like to try it on Calais as well, because it is also a natural detox plus will kill any internal parasites. Thanks for input in advance! :)
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IMHO, dosing a cham for something that isn't a known medical problem (do you know your cham has a large parasite load?) and also using something that hasn't been formulated for a specific herp is risky. Chams can tolerate a low level of parasitism...they are going to have some because their feeders do... I would think keeping your cham healthy with well supplemented feeders, proper dusting, proper lighting etc. would be a safer way to fight the effects of parasites. Also, if your cham happens to have a heavy parasite load, giving it something that killls them might cause a large sudden die off and overwhelm your cham's ability to handle the dead ones.
 
Carlton said:
IMHO, dosing a cham for something that isn't a known medical problem (do you know your cham has a large parasite load?) and also using something that hasn't been formulated for a specific herp is risky. Chams can tolerate a low level of parasitism...they are going to have some because their feeders do... I would think keeping your cham healthy with well supplemented feeders, proper dusting, proper lighting etc. would be a safer way to fight the effects of parasites. Also, if your cham happens to have a heavy parasite load, giving it something that killls them might cause a large sudden die off and overwhelm your cham's ability to handle the dead ones.
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well thats the thing it can be used for awide range of animal and humans. it is supposed to be safe and all natural and has many health benefits. it is widely popular in the agriculture industry but no one else really seems to know about it. i will have to make some calls and do some research, if it is safe for reptiles i would thi
 
nk it would become widely popular in the reptile industry because they can be so sensitive to the chemical dewormers. also, you are supposed to give it daily for three weeks at first incase of infestation to prevent toxic buildup
 
I was thinking of using this as a wormer as well on herps as it is all natural not a drug, it works well on mammals to get rid of fleas but it can dry out there fur/skin if used too much so I have wondered about it with reptiles if it may absorb liquid from the gut and cause them to deydarte?
 
northcham said:
I was thinking of using this as a wormer as well on herps as it is all natural not a drug, it works well on mammals to get rid of fleas but it can dry out there fur/skin if used too much so I have wondered about it with reptiles if it may absorb liquid from the gut and cause them to deydarte?
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This might be the reason to be cautious, or at least the direction to go in while searching for more info. It might not be chemicallyrisky, but it could be mechanicallyrisky because it acts as an absorbant or a dessicant and the cham would be ingesting it. The other problem would be dosage...you'd need to know how much to dose to be effective (and you'd need to know how to tell) without causing intestinal blockages or irritation. I don't know either way really, but again, if your chams don't show health problems why treat them?

I'm not saying don't research it further, just be sure treatment is really needed.
 
Carlton said:
This might be the reason to be cautious, or at least the direction to go in while searching for more info. It might not be chemicallyrisky, but it could be mechanicallyrisky because it acts as an absorbant or a dessicant and the cham would be ingesting it. The other problem would be dosage...you'd need to know how much to dose to be effective (and you'd need to know how to tell) without causing intestinal blockages or irritation. I don't know either way really, but again, if your chams don't show health problems why treat them?

I'm not saying don't research it further, just be sure treatment is really needed.
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It would be good to find out, in case ever needed.
 
I've always understood it to be horrible if you breathe it in, much less ingest it, which is why I didn't put it down to keep out wild bugs around my apartment since I have dogs. People really eat it?
 
I've read that it's really bad to breathe it in too, but then I've also read that it's ineffective once it is wet, so... It's conflicting. If it's ineffective once wet, it shouldn't be bad if you eat it, but then it also shouldn't do anything to the parasites either. :confused:
 
pssh said:
I've read that it's really bad to breathe it in too, but then I've also read that it's ineffective once it is wet, so... It's conflicting. If it's ineffective once wet, it shouldn't be bad if you eat it, but then it also shouldn't do anything to the parasites either. :confused:
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Here is some info on it : http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/diatomaceous_earth.html

I have mostly heard good things about it and the product I got has all 5 star reviews of people who use it on themselves and their animals. It can also be used as an external parasite killer like fleas and ticks. It worked extremely well on the ticks in my yard! First use and i had no more ticks.
 
justjumpit621 said:
Okay so I have started giving diatomacious earth to my dog, cats, and chickens as a dewormer and precautionary regimen. My question is, has anyone used or heard of using DE for chameleons? If safe I would like to try it on Calais as well, because it is also a natural detox plus will kill any internal parasites. Thanks for input in advance! :)
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I don't think I would use it on reptiles. Found this quote at the following link.
"Diatomaceous earth is safe to use with and around almost all animals.

To this date, the only observed exception to this is use with reptiles and beneficial insects such as honey bees.

Diatomaceous earth has the ability to absorb moisture and therefore it is not recommended for use with reptiles due to the fact that it may dry out their skin."
http://absorbentproductsltd.wordpress.com/tag/diatomaceous-earth/
 
Hemlock is natural, but poisonous. This has nothing to do with DE. DE is proven non toxic and is used EXTENSIVELY in deworming and detoxifying, especially by people who like to go holistic.
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mrfixit01 said:
I don't think I would use it on reptiles. Found this quote at the following link.
"Diatomaceous earth is safe to use with and around almost all animals.

To this date, the only observed exception to this is use with reptiles and beneficial insects such as honey bees.

Diatomaceous earth has the ability to absorb moisture and therefore it is not recommended for use with reptiles due to the fact that it may dry out their skin."
http://absorbentproductsltd.wordpress.com/tag/diatomaceous-earth/
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ooops... Natural does not mean safe for every animal. That was sort of my point....what is safe for some is, in fact, poison for others.

I just get really annoyed when people act like "it's natural" is equal to "it's safe"....
 
I've used it externally on my dogs before with great success on fleas, but it really dried out their skin.

I still don't get the contradicting info.
 
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