Chameleon Forums


Go Back   Chameleon Forums > Chameleon Husbandry > Health Clinic



site sponsor

Chameleon Care
New to chameleons? Curious about their basic care? Check out our care resources!
chameleon bookstore

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-30-2010, 07:51 PM
tallonebball's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Winchester VA
Posts: 11
tallonebball is on a distinguished road
Exclamation Chameleon with cloudy eyes

Hello all,
My 4 year old panther chameleon has some eye problem I can't seem to find on the internet, his eyes are cloudy yet there is no discharge or mucus. Its like he has some type of hard, clear substance in front of his eyes that are making it very hard for him to see.
Right now I am force feeding him because of his vision, he is however drinking on his own.
Ive been trying turtle eye drops but they don't seem to be very effective. Anybody have any ideas??
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-30-2010, 07:56 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: San Diego
Posts: 7,083
Elizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond repute
Would it be possible to get pictures? I know "eye" pictures are hard, but sometimes a picture conveys information that makes a big difference. You should probably fill out the "how to ask for help" form in the first thread in this forum. Just copy and paste, type in your responses in as much detail as possible.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-30-2010, 08:09 PM
tallonebball's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Winchester VA
Posts: 11
tallonebball is on a distinguished road
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - 4 year old Male Panther Chameleon
Handling - I don't handle all that much unless I have to
Feeding - Hes eating crickets/mealworms/waxworms about 3 times a week when he lets me force feed him
Supplements - Exo-Terra Multivitamin and spraying with Flukers Liquid Vitamin. Also now using Zomed turtle eyedrops
Watering - I use a dripper and I spray
Fecal Description - looks like it always has
History - he has has eye problems since I've had him and they keep going away for a long while then coming back

Cage Info:
Cage Type - He lives in a fake tree in our media room
Lighting - two lamps, one with a 100w sunglo and one with a 26 watt UVA/UVB
Temperature - under basking light can be about 80-90 degrees depending on how close he gets, the rest is around 72-74 degrees
Humidity - im not totally sure, its hard to tell but he gets sprayed once a day
Plants - fake tree, I have found he has eye allergies to almost all live plants
Placement - it is in indirect sunlight
Location - Virginia
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-30-2010, 09:09 PM
tallonebball's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Winchester VA
Posts: 11
tallonebball is on a distinguished road
Could it be possible he is just getting old? 4 years is just an approximation because I think he was between 7 month to a year old when I bought him.
Any help guys?
Its very hard for me to get picture because he doesn't open his eyes unless hes moving and he doesn't move all that much. I'll try to get a decent pic tomorrow though..
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-30-2010, 10:12 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Posts: 1,591
lisa h is a jewel in the roughlisa h is a jewel in the roughlisa h is a jewel in the roughlisa h is a jewel in the rough
Just thinking out loud, but I wonder if they get cataracts like other animals? Does he seem to be in any discomfort?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-30-2010, 10:35 PM
jessica's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Carmichael, California
Posts: 2,647
Blog Entries: 4
jessica has a brilliant futurejessica has a brilliant futurejessica has a brilliant futurejessica has a brilliant futurejessica has a brilliant futurejessica has a brilliant futurejessica has a brilliant futurejessica has a brilliant futurejessica has a brilliant futurejessica has a brilliant futurejessica has a brilliant future
Cham Photo Bronze Cham Photo Bronze 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tallonebball View Post
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - 4 year old Male Panther Chameleon
Handling - I don't handle all that much unless I have to
Feeding - Hes eating crickets/mealworms/waxworms about 3 times a week when he lets me force feed him
Supplements - Exo-Terra Multivitamin and spraying with Flukers Liquid Vitamin. Also now using Zomed turtle eyedrops
Watering - I use a dripper and I spray
Fecal Description - looks like it always has
History - he has has eye problems since I've had him and they keep going away for a long while then coming back

Cage Info:
Cage Type - He lives in a fake tree in our media room
Lighting - two lamps, one with a 100w sunglo and one with a 26 watt UVA/UVB
Temperature - under basking light can be about 80-90 degrees depending on how close he gets, the rest is around 72-74 degrees
Humidity - im not totally sure, its hard to tell but he gets sprayed once a day
Plants - fake tree, I have found he has eye allergies to almost all live plantsPlacement - it is in indirect sunlight
Location - Virginia
Has a vet diagnosed this or have you noticed a problem with his eyes when you put plants in his cage?

I am just curious if this could have been a problem for a while and the cloudy film is scar tissue.
__________________
"Cheese on my pants is just who I am now."
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-30-2010, 11:33 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: San Diego
Posts: 7,083
Elizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond repute
um...if he's not moving or opening his eyes during the day you have a bigger problem than cataracts (not saying that's not happening, but eyes closed and not moving during the day, requiring forced feedings are all signs of trouble)

I think you need to take your chameleon to a vet.

When you say the poop "looks like it always does" what does that mean? Good chameleon poop has a large "brown grey" part which is the actual fecal matter and a hopefully whitish tag which is the pee...it goes by the name URATE here. It should be white or possibly cream...not yellow or orange (a tip that is yellow or orange isn't a panic).

A chameleon being allergic to live plants would be very unusual. How did you "find" that he was allergic?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-01-2010, 02:00 PM
tallonebball's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Winchester VA
Posts: 11
tallonebball is on a distinguished road
His poop is exactly the description of "good" poop you gave
I just assume he is allergic because he would always get eye problems whenever I put any of the safe plants in with him, then when I put him in the fake tree the eye problems all went away for about 2 years until now...
Its not that he doesn't move or doesn't open his eyes, he moves just fine, his grip is strong, but I can tell he can't see very well which is why I think he doesn't move all as much as he used to. He actually opens his eyes only when he moves though and I can see some clear mass between his eye and eyelid which clearly obstructs his vision.
And no I haven't found a vet yet.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-01-2010, 03:00 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: San Diego
Posts: 7,083
Elizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond reputeElizadolots has a reputation beyond repute
That's good news on the poop. I guess it's possible for a chameleon to be allergic to plants. Certainly, if it bothered his eyes you did the right thing by taking them out.

Have you tried rinsing his eyes? Use the "saline solution" that is sold for contact lenses and gently flush them out..

I really think a vet visit is order because it's possible there's an eye infection and medicine will be needed.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-01-2010, 03:19 PM
tallonebball's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Winchester VA
Posts: 11
tallonebball is on a distinguished road
Well you see when the old plants were in there he would get those eye infections that I could cure by flushing out his eye. I always just used a cotton swab and freshwater though.
Now I have been trying to flush his eyes out with the turtle eye drops with no effect.
Should I try the saline solution or do you think this is definitely a vets territory?
How do I find a vet that takes chameleons?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fischer's Chameleon (Kinyongia fischeri) Chris Anderson Kinyongia 77 08-02-2014 07:45 PM
General Care of True Chameleons Brad General Discussion 15 01-30-2010 08:56 PM
Eyes closed? hallenhe Health Clinic 2 03-07-2009 01:04 PM
Newbie questions... ChrisLawson General Discussion 4 04-18-2008 09:12 AM
People with veiled chameleon dodolah General Discussion 4 10-30-2007 10:04 AM

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:29 AM.


Chameleon Top Sites Chameleons Youtube Chameleons Facebook
Copyright 2014, Chameleon Forums. All Rights Reserved.