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Old 08-21-2012, 03:07 AM
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Cham is hiding and not eating much ?

Hi everyone, I am new to reptiles and have got my self a 4 or 5 month old male nosy be panther. I've had him 4 days now but the last 2 days he has been hiding underneath leaves during the day. I have a reptiglo 10.00 UVB. Could this be the reason, or could it because it has been very warm over the weekend. Also could some one tell me how many medium size crickets he should be eating ? Any help is much appreciated as I want to make him feel as comfy as possible! Thanks.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:13 AM
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Hi! The 10.0 could be too bright for him. What enclosure do you have and is the light on the outside or the inside?

At that age he should be eating a lot, maybe 10-15 apropriately sized feeders, no bigger than the gap between his eyes is the general rule around here.

Can you fill in this form please? Then folks can maybe give you an idea of what's up witht he little guy How to ask for help
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:56 AM
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I agree with the above, 10% is too much for your little guy.
He is hiding because he has not gotten used to you and his new home yet.

You have only had him 4 days, he needs lots more time.
They usually explore their new cage when you first put them in. That's why you could see him, he was still in the
process of looking for hidding places. So by the 3rd day, he found some good ones and you havent seen him since! that's pretty normal

It can take a while before he comes out of hidding and realizes that you are not a preditor about to eat him!!

Look at my old posts on this subject of acclimation.

When he comes out in the open to bask and will eat in front of you (he knows when you are watching, even if you dont realize it) then you can start hand/cup feeding.

Make sure he sees your hand every day for feeding.
I would feed him about 10 crickets, maybe throw in a few more if he wont come out when your around and you have to "free range" hunt the crick down method.

For the acclimation time, you may not know how many he is eating, or if drinking, so watch for his poops.
Make sure they are dark color and solid and there should be a seperate white part called urates (lizzards dont exactly pee!!).

As long as you see this, he is getting what he needs.

The key word with a new cham is PATIENCE!!

As for the UVB, you want a 5 to 6% Arcadia HO w/ fixture (my top choice), or a ZooMed Reptisun 5%.
Make sure to buy a tube style, not the compact type.

Also, make sure he has total dark at night (no night lites!!)
They need cercadien (spelling!!??) cycle just like us

Lets see some pics of your new guy
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Your Chameleon - 4 month nosy be panthet in my viv for 4 days
Handling - He has come on to my hand once
Feeding - Travis has eaten about 5 crickets. I think they are to large for him as he gagged after eating one. I make sure there is about 3 in his viv at all times. Also I have put a wax worm in his viv this morning.
Supplements - I have a mixed nutrient powder which I have used once but will make sure crickets are dusted twice a week.
Watering - I mist my cham 2 - 5 times a day I see him drinking off the viv wall I recently put a very shallow bowl in as well
Fecal Description - I've seen 3 poops one was very large with a white tip and 2 others which were smaller with white tips
History -

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Viverium. Is wooden with front sliding glass doors. I would aprox say it's 1 foot deep, 3 foot wide an about 4 1/2 tall.
Lighting - I have a reptiglo 10.00 UVB and a 100w reflector heat bulb. I've got the reptiglo on a timer from 8:30 am to 8:30 pm but have recently been turning off about 6 as i believe it's to bright
Temperature - the average is just about 80 in the centre of the cage I believe the basking spot is about 85
Humidity - About 70% I maintain this by misting and I measur by having a hydrometer in the centre of the viv
Plants - I only have fake plants
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? My viv is on the floor so the top of the viv is about 4/12 or 5 foot high. There is a fair amount of movement as it is in my bedroom but during the day there is not as Im at work
Location - uk

Current problem - Cham is not eating a lot and keeps hiding in dark places in viv

I tried to fill out to the best of my knowledge as I'm not sure on viv measurements.

My repti glo and heat lamp are both inside the viv I could upload a pic if this would help ?

Thanks for your quick reply it's much apreciated !

P.s he does not hide all day he does roam about. When he hides he generally goes a dark colour
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I would raise your cage up off the floor. Put it on a table or something. He probably feels intimidated being lower than you are. Take into account you have only had him for 4 days and he is getting used to things. I don't think the 10.0 is your problem. There are plenty of members who use them sucessfully. Just make sure being inside, there is no possible way for him to get at the bulbs and burn himself. You need to create more of a temp change in your viv. 5 degrees is not much. You are only getting a 85 degree basking temp with a 100 watt bulb? I would feed your chamelon like 1/4 inch or a little larger. He should be eating about 15 crickets a day or so.
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Thanks for the advise about raising the viv will do that ASAP ! About the tempurature Wat heat would u recommend for the basking area ? And to create more of a tempurature difference should I add mor fake plants about half way up the viv to keep the bottom cooler? He has not eaten anywhere near 10 to 15 crickets a day :/. Wat would be a good live plant to put in there for him? Or any other objects that Chams enjoy.
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Thanks for the advise about raising the viv will do that ASAP ! About the tempurature Wat heat would u recommend for the basking area ? And to create more of a tempurature difference should I add mor fake plants about half way up the viv to keep the bottom cooler? He has not eaten anywhere near 10 to 15 crickets a day :/. Wat would be a good live plant to put in there for him? Or any other objects that Chams enjoy.
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I would say...
- 82-85F basking
- 70-75F ambient
Yes, live plants are always a great option. You can place it under the basking spot to stop any light from overheating the rest of the cage. Some great plants to use include schefflera, pothos/devil's ivy, hibiscus, ficus, and more. Here is a list of all safe plants. http://www.flchams.com/safe_plant_list.asp

EDIT: Don't worry about his eating just yet. He is still getting adjusted. I have heard of chams that will not eat at all for the first week or longer.
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Thank you all so much I will try to get his cage up off te floor and add some live plants for him. I will have to upload some pic of the lil fella so u can let me know Wat you think of him and his set up
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:58 AM
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Hi CalLum. Can you be a bit more specific about your supplements. You say you have a mixed nutrient powder and you will dust twice a week. What is your supplement ?
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