Hello everyone.

This is I think my third thread on this awesome message board.

Recently, as I have been reading through numerous threads, I have noticed people saying that cross-breeding locales of Chameleons is wrong or breeders saying that they would not do it. As of now I do have knowledge of chameleons, I bought a 1/2 Ambilobe 1/2 Nosy Be Panther from Kammerflage Kreations at the Anaheim convention, NARBC(Awesome people, really helpful), however my knowledge is still limited. Leonardo, my chameleon is doing very well, is active, hydrated, and growing exponentially. Anyway, what is wrong with cross-breeding? I am curious. I ask for a few reasons, curiosity, I saw a panther at the Anaheim show that was made up of 4 species, and my chameleon is a cross-breed.

If anyone could please answer my question, I'd be grateful.

Thank you very much!

It's the simple fact that those cross breeds could potentially be mistaken as a purebred and mess up a whole lot of bloodlines. I think the cross breeds shouldn't be sold and just used rather as personal enjoyment as pets. That's just my opinion, everyone has their own opinion on this.

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Derrik

the reason why people dont like it is the same reason you dont wanna cross breed two pure bred dogs. what do you get when you cross a dalmation and pug? a mutt.

cross breeding just means that there are less of the pure breds out there

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Don't you know the first law of physics? Anything that's fun costs at least eight dollars.

Nothing, as long as sellers/breeders don't market them as something they're not. The decision to cross-breed locales is a personal one. Some are purists, some want to see what crossing will result in.

yeah... i guess that's the biggest worry of cross breeding. is that it could contaminate the bloodlines.

Thank you very much.

You satisfied my curiosity

Howdy,

Many beautiful and healthy Panthers come from cross-locale breeding. There are keepers/breeders that are concerned about keeping the bloodlines separate to protect them. Think of the efforts that people go to with the bloodlines of cats and dogs. There are arguments on both sides; some well-founded, some not. It's a personal choice as much as anything. I'm sure that your Panther will be happy and healthy, crossed or otherwise . So long as these animals are represented as what they are, people will be able to make informed decisions and not inadvertently cross a locale when they breed them.

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See Ya,

Dave Weldon
Panther & Veileds

Book Collection:
"Reptile Medicine and Surgery" 2nd ed. By Mader
"Chameleons - Their Care and Breeding" By Linda J. Davison
"Chameleons - Nature's Hidden Jewels" 2nd Ed. By Petr Necas
"The Panther Chameleon: Color Variation, Natural History, Conservation and Captive Management" By Gary W. Ferguson...
"Thoughts for Food" 3rd Ed. Edited by Ardi Abate
"Understanding Reptile Parasites" By Roger J. Klingenberg D.V.M.

nothing is wrong with a cross breed. i think the problem is when this cross breed is cross bred again and again. you end up with mutts.

technically this isnt bad as long as these mutts arent contaminating the pure bloodlines(some mutts may look alot like pure breeds)

Speaking of crossing locales....

Yemen and Saudi are both rather "closed" countries so little is known about calyptratus locales. That species has been inbred and had locales cross-bred for what, 13-14 years in US collections? With rare, infrequent shipments of wild caughts added in. That species has been selectively bred for turquoise, sunburst, etc. and people love it. Why would it be wrong to selectively breed locales of pardalis (or any other species for that matter) when it's not wrong to do it with calyptratus, dogs, cats, cattle, flightless fruitflies....???

"mutts" can often end up being healthier animals.
There is nothing wrong with it ....aside from the above mentioned "pure" bloodlines being tampered with.
Mixed up gene pools are (in my opinion) a good thing for the continued health of a species.
Incidentally, most pure breeds of dogs were created by us...by cross breeding.

-Brad