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Old 06-23-2011, 09:53 AM
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Cage drainage system

In the Flooding thread a few asked about different ways to adequately drain a cage so that you did not have flooding issues or standing water on the bottom of the cage. The way I do it isn't anything great or really that original but just something I came up with taking different ideas and making them my own. I was asked to post pictures so here they are. I am using a LLLReptile drain tray that I modified and I have NO affiliation with the company just liked the idea.

Here is what I started with. The tray is from LLL and they make sizes to fit most common sizes of chameleon cages.


Here is the package I got from lowes it has a few parts in the bag but I was only interested in one part.


Here is the important part


I have found through trial and error that the easiest way to make the correct hole for the brass tube is with an RC car body reamer like the one pictured.


And this is the hole. At this point I also put 4 additional little holes in the support at this corner so that if the one hole in the support gets clogged you don't have back up. Sorry I didn't get pictures of the additional holes in the support.


and here is the brass fitting super glued into the hole.


Now that you have it looking like this you can heat up some plastic tubing in some boiling water and press fit it over the brass fitting in your tray.



and run the tubes into whatever bucket you want. You can see from this picture that I have a couple of holes in the lid and there has been some water on the lid. This was due to me experimenting with how to drill the hole in the drainage tray. One of the first ones was drilled with a wood drill bit and a drill and it ripped up the tray a little bit. I was always going to add cocking around the bung to seal off the hole but found out that the water would just run down the tubing on the outside and to the top of the lid. With a couple of holes drilled in the lid it wasn't a problem. I would have fixed it "correctly" but it was on a baby cage that I wasn't planning on using past a month or two and when it isn't being used I will fix the ripped hole I have the bung through.



Then the only other things I did was to put a 1/4" something (doesn't matter what I have a little lid under it) on the opposite corner from the drain. Then place a few holes in low lying areas of the plastic in the bottom of the cage around where your plants sit or in the corner directly above the drain hole.
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Old 06-23-2011, 09:58 AM
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Great idea!!!

All I've done is drilled a few holes in the bottom panel which the plant pots then sit on top of. Most of the water comes down the plants and through the plant pots themselves.

I've got the enclosure raised a little, with a tray underneath to catch the water.

Seems to do the job, but obviously needs emptying more often then a big tub would.

Works for Simba tho
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You are right there are many ways to do it all...I think you could go a month without emptying the container I have and that is with two cages and misting 8 times a day. But I empty once a week at least.
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That works out ok in the corner like that? I have these pans, and I sell them. I like to use PVC glue to secure a PVC fitting to the side near the corner but outside of that little triangle. I find that these pans can hold a lot of water before they start to drain. I had almost 3 gallons of water between a 2'x2' and a 16"x16" pan. I use shims now to direct the water to one side to avoid large water build up.

BTW the pans are made of PVC, that is why you can glue a PVC fitting to the side of them. I can post photos if you have any interest.
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Old 06-27-2011, 01:09 PM
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does home depot have pvc sheets to make a custom base tray for a cage?
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Old 06-27-2011, 02:28 PM
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The sheets used are called I believe Expanded Foam PVC (example). I purchased a few sheets at a plastic fabrication store. I had made a few trays, for the cost of 1 large tray. I used the 2007 plastic adhesive
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That works out ok in the corner like that? I have these pans, and I sell them. I like to use PVC glue to secure a PVC fitting to the side near the corner but outside of that little triangle. I find that these pans can hold a lot of water before they start to drain. I had almost 3 gallons of water between a 2'x2' and a 16"x16" pan. I use shims now to direct the water to one side to avoid large water build up.

BTW the pans are made of PVC, that is why you can glue a PVC fitting to the side of them. I can post photos if you have any interest.
yea post pix!
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That works out ok in the corner like that? I have these pans, and I sell them. I like to use PVC glue to secure a PVC fitting to the side near the corner but outside of that little triangle. I find that these pans can hold a lot of water before they start to drain. I had almost 3 gallons of water between a 2'x2' and a 16"x16" pan. I use shims now to direct the water to one side to avoid large water build up.

BTW the pans are made of PVC, that is why you can glue a PVC fitting to the side of them. I can post photos if you have any interest.
I have had zero problems with it! I think some of the keys to make it work is that it is in the bottom so you get better gravity drainage I put 4 more holes in that support so that drainage can't get hung up by junk or air bubbles and I place 1/4" riser in the opposite corner on the smaller trays and on the 18" and 24" trays I add a 1/2"-3/4" riser in the opposite corner to the drain.

I have ZERO standing water it drains well and completely dries out between mistings and understand I was at one time misting 8 times a day. You will hear dropping water in an empty tub within a min of the misting starting.

I understand that it's PVC and you could use the two stage PVC cement but I used Zap-Gap CA which is also designed for PVC and is hobby grade CA used for making models etc and with the flange on the pipe I used there is no problems with it and it is less messy and user friendly I had both and the CA worked better.
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Appliance pans

Lowe's in my area carries large white plastic appliance pans designed to be placed beneath washing machines.
The pans have 8 raised ridges molded into them, so the cage is held about 1/2" above the rest of the pan.
There are 2
They are 30" x 32" outside and are about 2 1/2" high.
and
27" x 30" inside.
I used 1/2" elbow plastic fittings, pre-threaded at one end for a plastic nut and I pushed clear pvc tubing over the other end to a drainage container. The fittings were made for running electrical wires through them.
My home made cages have screen bottoms, so everything drains through to the pan.
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:36 PM
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Lovereps do you have any photos you could share?
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