Breeding in Winter. Panthers and veileds.

chameleonneeds

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Hey all.

I was wondering if you guys breed your chameleons in winter?

Last year my females were bred just before winter and were supposed to lay in early winter but they never did and this year one of the females died eggbound. The other I bred again and she laid perfectly.

So now Im wondering will they actualy breed in winter, I would like to know what you guys think about breeding them in winter?
As I would really like to get some panther and veiled clutches sometime.

Regards

Tyrone
 
Thanks Lance should I just keep the room temps or her basking temps at the right temp for her to be producing eggs?

It is about 9:30 pm and we are just starting into winter and the temp is 69.62F. It could get colder to about 50 on some nights. And it may also go down to 60 some days.
I am not using any heat lights over my veileds now but should I put one in for now and just keep her basking temps at around 72-75? And at night I can have a heating pad to just keep the temps at around 70.

I dont want to mate the females and then have them not lay eggs.

Sorry for all the questions lance, and thanks for the response:)
 
Agreed. Mine seem willing to breed at all times of year. Have not experienced any issues related to timing.

Did you also keep a spot lamp over your females during the time of her being gravid? Or do you just leave it at room temp and she seemed to do fine?

Something must have been up with my females, either the 1 female just did not lay and the male shot blanks for the other female so she did not fertilize?

Thanks sandra
 
When I see threads like this I always wonder if they mean
"Wet season" as well as "dry season".
It's not like there really is a winter season...at least for veileds and panthers.

Harry
 
Its great to hear that then lol :p

Just to let you know our winter is a dry season, but for some reason it is still raining as if it were summer! And winter has started a month later. Maybe its got something to do with the "global warming".
 
Thanks Lance should I just keep the room temps or her basking temps at the right temp for her to be producing eggs?

It is about 9:30 pm and we are just starting into winter and the temp is 69.62F. It could get colder to about 50 on some nights. And it may also go down to 60 some days.
I am not using any heat lights over my veileds now but should I put one in for now and just keep her basking temps at around 72-75? And at night I can have a heating pad to just keep the temps at around 70.

I dont want to mate the females and then have them not lay eggs.

Sorry for all the questions lance, and thanks for the response:)

You don't need to do anything different for them to be ome receptive. If your cham is thriving, let nature take it's course.
 
You said..."I am not using any heat lights over my veileds now but should I put one in for now and just keep her basking temps at around 72-75? And at night I can have a heating pad to just keep the temps at around 70"...your basking temperature should be in the low to mid 80's not the mid to low 70's. IMHO, consistent low temperatures like that would slow digestion and thus impair nutrient absorption which would interfere with reproduction.

You should fill in the questionnaire at the top of the health section so we can check the rest of your husbandry. Most of the eggbinding comes from poor husbandry or not providing a suitable egglaying site.

Can you post some pictures too please?
 
First off all I have to say is wow.

How can you say that female panthers should breed year around? Do you people realize why your females only last a couple 3 years? Sure, if you keep your chams up 12+ hours a day and keep their daytime basking temps in the 90s and ambient over 70 you can get 4 clutches a year. WHAT A MONEY MAKER!

Do a little experiment, keep your lights the same as the cycle outside, lower your basking and ambient temps by 10-15 deg, same with night temps. Then cut back the amount of food and water intake (during the dead of the winter of course) and try to breed your chameleons. It won't happen and there is a reason for this. The female chameleons body has evolved to become receptive during times of plentiful food and water so she can produce eggs. And guess what! There is a dry season in Madagascar, and thats the late winter.

Now you say: YOU ARE STARVING YOUR CHAMELEONS!!!!

The truth is to keep a female receptive during the winter you would have to overfeed her IMHO. There is a reason why females go in and out of receptivity. There are "environmental triggers" that makes them receptive to sent up the timing to have the babies hatch at the optimum time of year to have the best chance to thrive. This time of year of course is late spring, early summer. This is when water, and food (baby bugs) are most abundant giving the babies a much better chance to get established.


See ya,

Todd
 
Tod my female veiled that is still alive is 3 years old and has only ever laid 2 clutches both consisting of about 30 eggs each.

The only reasons why I wanted to breed them in the coming months is so that I have hatchlings coming out in spring or summer. If I breed in spring or summer they will most likely hatch right in the middle of winter.

So Id rather have hatchlings in spring and summer and not winter, because of the better room temps and there is better weather to put them outside in.
 
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