Best Chameleon Complete Setup?

Hello all,
Ive been keeping all kinds of snakes and lizards for 10 years now and I have always admired Chameleons. I downsized my whole collection and now plan on getting a male baby Nosy Faly. I was wondering which company provides the best 'Complete setup'?

Kammerflage Kreations- 20 item pack
http://www.chameleonsonly.com/products/20_Item_Panther_Package-42-7.html

FL Chams
http://flchams.com/complete-cages-for-sale.asp

Screameleons
http://shop.screameleons.com/portal...3365&alias=Screameleons&site&ItemID=3559&3365



I will be getting a Pothos and possibly Hibiscus plants in addition to the fake plants for him. Also I will be getting a MistKing for whichever package I purchase.

My aunt is a teacher and has SIlkworms for her Class pets so I can get any amount for free. WOuld these be a good choice to mix fedding with crickets or could they be a staple diet?

Thanks for everyones opinions!

I looked at all those and ended up buying everything individually when I got back into chams. I ended up getting the cage I wanted with all the supplies for cheaper. Where in Socal are you? LLL reptile would be where I would suggest you buy everything from. If you need help with a list of items let us know

Agreed....LLL is best bet....and you can "personalize" it better.......

I'm within 20 minutes of LLL and I'm going in the morning to see what they have

Black Panther said:

I'm within 20 minutes of LLL and I'm going in the morning to see what they have

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They should have everything you need. Alot of people here are using repashy calcium plus for dusting feeders( I just jumped on the wagon). Its an all in one duster that makes things so much easier. Don't listen to them if they try to give you advice on dusting. They have NO idea what they are talking about in my past experiences with their employees. If you need a list to take I can help you out with what to take. I am super bored lol

I think I have a good list from what I've seen on all the setup packages but if your still bored I'd like more information

i ordered mail order and mistakenly got a non wire mesh cage package when i thought i ordered a screen cage from LLL. I kept it for an outdoor setup. In person you shouldnt have that issue. LLL has very good prices.

The only thing I would consider other than yes you can go to LLL and it's way cheaper is the warranty Kammer offers with their set up, if that's worth it to you. Considering a male nosey be is no small investment. Good luck, make sure your set up is proper before purchasing and do tons of research, even about things you don't think youll need to know.

I wasn't planning on getting a chameleon with the setup from Kammerflage, as they don't have any Nosy Falys. I have done a considerable amount of research on them and will be searching for more information before I take the step to get one. I would like to get the setup all setup before I get the Faly in early July

What would be the best size screen enclosure for a 4-5 month male?

16x16x30 or 18x18x36

Vegas Chad said:

16x16x30 or 18x18x36

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For a female, I know 18x18x36 is recomended but could I use a 24x24x36?

Black Panther said:

For a female, I know 18x18x36 is recomended but could I use a 24x24x36?

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I moved mine to. 2x3x4 at 4 1/2 months old and he's never had a problem

IMO
You might as well get a 2x2x4.
Youll be needing it anyhow

Some use smaller enclosures to make feeding easier.
IME I had no problem getting a 3.5-4month old to find its food in a 3x3x5.

The best setup?
Thats a heck of a question.

Well I would recommend using all natural plants vines and branches.

You will need to get a dome for a basking bulb, and use regular house bulbs for basking, 60-75w depending on what gets your temp into the high 80's.
I would definitely go with a linear 5.0 for uvb.
I would also recommend a linear 6500k bulb for your plants.

Provide lots of highways and climbing areas, enough for the cham to get to all of the cage.

I would recommend a Hibiscus tree specifically, that and shefflera.
For adding foliage and vines, use pothos.

Getting a misting system makes things easy, but I would recommend picking up a hand pumped pesticide type sprayer no matter what.
Its good for long showers for them, and a good hand mist with hot water occasionally is really good for them.

I also recommend repashy calcium plus, it will take care of all your supps, and is a quality product.

Thats all that comes to mind, good luck!