Sorry, thought you were asking for one. But, do you agree that's what Maykal meant the relationships are?

Oh wait, I took it as the F2 father is also the father of the dam that produced the horned baby. The tree is more of a stump.

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Jackson's chameleon article: http://www.chameleonnews.com/10JulManchen.html

thanks will ,for making the three, that makes it clear.

sorry, the tree is not correct,

the father(mads) from "horny" was f1, the mother(henka),from horny ,is a daughter from (mads) x cbfemale. this cbfemale was a daughter from mads x wc female, mads was a male out of 2 wc animals wich wore only used as parents from mads in this project.

hope it makes it clear now

and i am very exited too!
will keep on posting pictures!

wierd but cool also a little confusing. cant wait to see the way he will turn out.

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1:0 Ambilobe Panther Chameleon-Optimus
1:0 Ambanja Panther Chameleon-Blaze

Sounds to me as this isn't an inbred chameleon from the way he's explaining it. This is very very interesting. I wonder if this fella will produce offspring with a horn??? Very cool indeed!

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Derrik

That is so cute! I really have nothing intelligent to say on the subject because I have no idea what it is. I know snakes have "egg teeth" that fall off when they're a few days old or something like that, but this looks like nothing even close to that... get more pics of him as he grows up.

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Hello. my name is Jill V., and I'm a chameleon addict.

It does look like a human nose to me.......Creepy but very very cool. I think it is a gene message gone awry. I had a long conversation with my vet last week about genetics and reptiles. My vet likes to get into some really interesting subjects relating to the animals and reptiles he treats. He has his own little continuing education program going on. He was telling me that they have identified several primative genes that are found in all current life forms (humans, mammals, birds, reptiles, etc.). These genes have been around since life started on Earth. These shared primative genes direct the formation of limbs, eyes, noses/nostrils, etc. All life forms with "eyes" share the same gene for eyebud formation. All life forms share a gene for limb formation. This shared gene has a different blueprint for each species that directs it to form in a certain way. There is a gene for tails too. Humans have the gene but it is "turned off" or directed not to form. It makes sense that sometimes these shared primative genes go awry and weird things happen. Like humans with tails, or cats with webbed feet, or panther chameleons with "noses". This subject intrigued me. I'm getting the following book that the vet told me about:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Cnn...%22evo+devo%22

It's all about this primative shared gene thing. Check it out if you are into that kind of info. Very cool cham. Thanks for sharing it with us

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Catherine Adams - Currently breeding most of the Pardalis locales, Veileds, K. Uthmoelleri, C. Laterispinis, B. Thamnobates and C. Melleri.

I am interested to see what this develops into. Is there any chance that one of the chams in his bloodline history were housed with a trioceros species at some point and could have crossed or something? What is the age, and can you tell it it is male or female yet? It would be interesting to know if pardalis originally had a horn and lost it over time. Does anyone know of a study that has taken place on the history of pardalis? This would definately be one to hang on to. Keep us posted.

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Jeremy
My Jungle Herps

Or like the whale with legs that was caught off New England in the early 1900's. Wish I had the time to read something other than textbooks because that sounds like a fascinating read.

@pardalisgirl:thanks for the info.

the horned panther is from 7-9-07
and in this point i think it is a female.
regards maykel