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Old 01-27-2012, 09:43 PM
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About to build my first Cage. For my first Cham.

I have never had a cham but I do have a saltwater reef tank. I reciently discovered chameleons about 2 weeks ago while trying to find a lizard for my son. He wound up with Geckos. I on the other hand, am going to get a sub adult male panther cham!!!
So, I am searching for ideas for my cage project. I do not know anyone with a cham and this is my first post on this site. I thought I'd run by you guys what I have so far and see what you think, if you don't mind... I am going to try attaching a pic that is the general shape and size of what I think would be good. But with some differances...

The actual cage portion is going to be about 4 and a half feet tall, 2 feet deep and 2 and a half or 3 feet wide.

1. Instead of wood, I think PVC 1x4's would be easier to keep clean and they should hold up better against the moisture.

2. To keep the humidity level I am thinking 2 foggers on timers will be good, I think 2 of them should run 4 nozzels at differant levels to get high, middle and bottom.

Was wondering if you thought that would be good and if so... what brand and size...

3. Also going to put a mister on a timer.... any preferance on mister brand and size??

4. I'll get 2 of the 4 foot lights. 65 K. One for each side of the cage. I do not know what kind of lights to put on top, for the live tree or the cham.

5. I am going to use black aluminum screen.

6. The back wall is not going to be screen. It is going to be FRP Board. (Plastic sheet used for the wall in a shower) The reason for this is to keep moisture off my house wall that it will be sitting against. Excess moisture will fall into the collecting trey that will be mentioned in a second.

7. The bottom will also be screen so that moisture and waste can fall through.

8. Under the screen floor will be a compartment made of FRP board with a removeable plastic trey to easily remove the water and waste that fell.

9. Under that compartment will be another compartment where I will keep the mister and the foggers.

10. I will use one live tree in a pot in the center of the cage and a lot of fake vegitation and fake vines. I figure this will be easier to maintain and still have some of the benifits of live vegitation.

11. I am also thinking about adding a waterfall, not sure at what level to put it... high, middle or lower....

12. I will also have 3 or four sets of temp and humidity gauges in differant places so I can moniter and adjust differant areas for optimal climate control.

13. Just for fun I am thinking about adding a small black light to set off some of the fake flowers and It will probably make the cham look cool too.

14. I am also thinking about hanging a fake vine and vegitation from the celing above the cage. One end will be long enough to put into the cage when the door is open. This will give the cham kind of an expansion and he can hang out up by the celing some times.

15. I figure aquarium safe silicone should be good for finishing touches and cealing any cracks.


Are all of these ideas good ones? Is there anything you would do differantly or something that you would add to make it cooler?? Any input would be great.

I appriciate all constructive criticism and ideas. What would you do if you were building the cage you want.
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:59 PM
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I have never had a cham but I do have a saltwater reef tank. I reciently discovered chameleons about 2 weeks ago while trying to find a lizard for my son. He wound up with Geckos. I on the other hand, am going to get a sub adult male panther cham!!!
So, I am searching for ideas for my cage project. I do not know anyone with a cham and this is my first post on this site. I thought I'd run by you guys what I have so far and see what you think, if you don't mind... I am going to try attaching a pic that is the general shape and size of what I think would be good. But with some differances...

The actual cage portion is going to be about 4 and a half feet tall, 2 feet deep and 2 and a half or 3 feet wide.

1. Instead of wood, I think PVC 1x4's would be easier to keep clean and they should hold up better against the moisture.

2. To keep the humidity level I am thinking 2 foggers on timers will be good, I think 2 of them should run 4 nozzels at differant levels to get high, middle and bottom.

Was wondering if you thought that would be good and if so... what brand and size...

If you are already thinking about getting a misting system, the two foggers won't be necessary. You could buy a little dripper, they are like twelve bucks, and they will be a constant water source for your cham. Some foggers are know to cause URI's.

3. Also going to put a mister on a timer.... any preferance on mister brand and size??

The mistking system. Its supposed to be fantastic. I'm ordering one.

4. I'll get 2 of the 4 foot lights. 65 K. One for each side of the cage. I do not know what kind of lights to put on top, for the live tree or the cham.

You'll need a basic light to keep up heat, a household light works fine if your house isn't really cold. A UVB bulb will also be needed for the cham, a 5.0 reptisun coil is what a lot of people buy.

5. I am going to use black aluminum screen.

Make sure the gauge is big enough the cham can climb on it. Don't want him to fall.

6. The back wall is not going to be screen. It is going to be FRP Board. (Plastic sheet used for the wall in a shower) The reason for this is to keep moisture off my house wall that it will be sitting against. Excess moisture will fall into the collecting trey that will be mentioned in a second.

7. The bottom will also be screen so that moisture and waste can fall through.

8. Under the screen floor will be a compartment made of FRP board with a removeable plastic trey to easily remove the water and waste that fell.

9. Under that compartment will be another compartment where I will keep the mister and the foggers.

10. I will use one live tree in a pot in the center of the cage and a lot of fake vegitation and fake vines. I figure this will be easier to maintain and still have some of the benifits of live vegitation.

Make sure to put the plant in a different plot with organic soil. As well as covering the soil with rocks to prevent him from eating any of it and causing impaction.

11. I am also thinking about adding a waterfall, not sure at what level to put it... high, middle or lower....

Waterfalls are bad. They house bacteria and chams will not drink still water. They prefers droplets of water of their plants and other surfaces in the enclosure.

12. I will also have 3 or four sets of temp and humidity gauges in differant places so I can moniter and adjust differant areas for optimal climate control.

13. Just for fun I am thinking about adding a small black light to set off some of the fake flowers and It will probably make the cham look cool too.

14. I am also thinking about hanging a fake vine and vegitation from the celing above the cage. One end will be long enough to put into the cage when the door is open. This will give the cham kind of an expansion and he can hang out up by the celing some times.

15. I figure aquarium safe silicone should be good for finishing touches and cealing any cracks.


Are all of these ideas good ones? Is there anything you would do differantly or something that you would add to make it cooler?? Any input would be great.

I appriciate all constructive criticism and ideas. What would you do if you were building the cage you want.

I have a post about the cage I'm building, I'll attach it soon. I hope this helped you a bit.
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Here it is.

home-made cage plans. critque.

Oh and welcome to the forums. Do you know what kind of cham you want.? You'll find they become very very addicting.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:12 PM
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You say waterfalls are bad and chams won't drink standing water? I figured that the moving water from the waterfall would help keep it from gathering bacteria...Not sure where I read that waterfalls were a good idea.. OH!!! and throw me an idea on what els you think I should add to make my cage super kick ash I must have forgotten something, or be unawhere of something that people always think... I wish my cage had..........
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:19 PM
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I am thinking about buying this little guy, what do you think?? I think he is six months old..
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:23 PM
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and what do you mean plant the tree in a differant... Do you mean differant from the fake vegitation?
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:24 PM
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Drainage is a big one. I built a drain table that works well. See the following link.
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Nope nope. Waterfalls are a big no no. Everyone wants a mistking. They are amazing. A variety of different plants. Ummm...I'm just putting a planters box on the bottom so I don't have to mess with the drainage and anything. Like put the plant in a different pot, a clean one that hasn't been touched with any of the pesticides or other chemicals that could of been in the other soil.

He looks good. I'm wanting to put a nosy faly in my cage for the first cham inside it.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:29 PM
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Nope nope. Waterfalls are a big no no. Everyone wants a mistking. They are amazing. A variety of different plants. Ummm...I'm just putting a planters box on the bottom so I don't have to mess with the drainage and anything. Like put the plant in a different pot, a clean one that hasn't been touched with any of the pesticides or other chemicals that could of been in the other soil.

He looks good. I'm wanting to put a nosy faly in my cage for the first cham inside it.
If you are running enough volume of water often enough to make sure your cham is hydrated you are going to over water the plants in the planter. You really need a drainage plan for the extra water. JMO
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:32 PM
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If you are running enough volume of water often enough to make sure your cham is hydrated you are going to over water the plants in the planter. You really need a drainage plan for the extra water. JMO
Hmmm...you're the first person to say anything about that possibility. Everyone else said its a good idea. How do think would be the best way to drain a planters box.?
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